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2015/2016 Atomic Redster GS double deck 3.0

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Just purchased a pair of 2015 Atomic Redster GS Double Deck 3.0 skis (demos) for a price I absolutely would have been an idiot if I had turned the offer down. I haven't actually skiied them before, I owned a pair if 2011 gs by atomic, but I have tried Atomics SL, XT double deck, and XTI, anyone ski these? And there thoughts? Much appreciated!
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I have skied all the models you mention, except the old (2011) GS skis.

 

What exactly is it you want to know? How the D2 GS compares to the other current models?

 

The D2 SL is a great short turn carver. An ever shorter radius than a FIS slalom ski, and I can definately feel the turniness. A bit to turny for me, but still a great ski. Not as damp as a Fischer of Head equivalent, a bit twitchy even. Especially if the snow is inconsistent, they can feel quite nervous. The rocker prevents you from tripping, but I would have liked a damper model.

 

The D2 XT is a stiff beast. Couldn't ski it without my legs exploding and being launched all the time. For athletic, strang skiers. Not for me (1.82 m and 86 kg, level 7 skier).

 

The Redster XTI is a hybrid model. The shorter two lengths are actually the same ski as the Redster Edge SL with a tiny radius and a bit less agressive and responsive as the D2 SL. THe longer twoo lengths are the same as the Redster Edge GS. Nice smoothe piste skis, well behaved but powerful enough for the demandingpiste skier.

 

The D2 GS than is a stable, powerful GS ski. It comes to life at speed, but you can actually feel the rocker quite a bit. Unlike the D2 SL or the Redster Edge GS - which are quite smooth in edge engagement with their rocker profiles - the D2 GS really has two parts. It doesn't hook up as quickly as other GS skis (by other brands) that have some rocker, but is does smooth out every uneven patch of snow you encounter. Damp, stable, mach speed machine, but not as snappy as the Fischer, Head, Rossignol or Völkl equivalent. 

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@mattw2356, I assume you've gotten the men's non-FIS version.  Not sure the specs for the '15 model, but this year's seem to be 178/17 and 184/17.5.  What are yours?

 

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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post
 

I have skied all the models you mention, except the old (2011) GS skis.

 

What exactly is it you want to know? How the D2 GS compares to the other current models?

 

The D2 SL is a great short turn carver. An ever shorter radius than a FIS slalom ski, and I can definately feel the turniness. A bit to turny for me, but still a great ski. Not as damp as a Fischer of Head equivalent, a bit twitchy even. Especially if the snow is inconsistent, they can feel quite nervous. The rocker prevents you from tripping, but I would have liked a damper model.

 

The D2 XT is a stiff beast. Couldn't ski it without my legs exploding and being launched all the time. For athletic, strang skiers. Not for me (1.82 m and 86 kg, level 7 skier).

 

The Redster XTI is a hybrid model. The shorter two lengths are actually the same ski as the Redster Edge SL with a tiny radius and a bit less agressive and responsive as the D2 SL. THe longer twoo lengths are the same as the Redster Edge GS. Nice smoothe piste skis, well behaved but powerful enough for the demandingpiste skier.

 

The D2 GS than is a stable, powerful GS ski. It comes to life at speed, but you can actually feel the rocker quite a bit. Unlike the D2 SL or the Redster Edge GS - which are quite smooth in edge engagement with their rocker profiles - the D2 GS really has two parts. It doesn't hook up as quickly as other GS skis (by other brands) that have some rocker, but is does smooth out every uneven patch of snow you encounter. Damp, stable, mach speed machine, but not as snappy as the Fischer, Head, Rossignol or Völkl equivalent. 

 

Really appreciate the info.   I'd been considering the D2 XT based on Yellow Gentian and Real Skier reviews of it, but have been really thinking more seriously about a pair of woman's D2 3.0 FIS gs skis 188/30, mainly because I'm lighter weight and older (and also male).  

 

I've enjoyed Rossi and Volkl gs skis, so maybe that's a better way to go, not sure.   I have a pair of woman's FIS old spec Volkl gs racetigers 183/23, that are super fun and easy on my knees.  So easy to control exact speed and exactly where you go on these skis.   And quite different, but just as fun, as Master's spec gs race skis that are ~r 19/182.   The Racetigers have more rollercoaster effect out of the turn than the masters spec ski, but not quite as laid back and versatile for rec skiing.    

 

With many Atomics there is a characteristic "sensitivity," you might say, that lets you feel every track or groove you cross but still with dampness and control.  Does the woman's FIS D2 or D2 3.0 have that sort of sensitive feel while still holding a good edge?

 

Also, is there considerable difference, and superiority to the newer 3.0 versions, compared to older 12/13, 13/14 versions?  Did they take a year or two to dial in the new FIS 188/30 skis for women, or did they get it right the first time?  

 

In other words, is there a good reason to go more recent with the D2 gs Atomics, including the woman's FIS gs ski (or the men's)?  Thanks.   


Edited by ski otter - 7/7/16 at 6:45pm
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I have the XTIs and love them. Demoed them last February and bought them in mid march. I found them easy to ski and found myself feeling good and picking up speed. My guy actually noticed i was skiing a little more aggressive than i normally do. The deciding factor in buying them was their ownership of frozen granular. smile.gif

I haven't any experience with the other ones.
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I have no experience with any of the FIS, previous or women's models, I'm afraid, so I really can't say.

I do recognize what surfsnowgirl says about her more aggressive and confident skiing on the XTIs. I have seen the same on Redstar Edge GS skis quite a bit with women, lighter and intermediate skiers. Seems to confirm my view on more advanced piste skis having a wider ski level range these days and actually helping intermediates forward.
Not that I think surfsnowgirl is an intermediate skier though. I have no idea. But those are my own observations with friends of mine.
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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post

I have no experience with any of the FIS, previous or women's models, I'm afraid, so I really can't say.

I do recognize what surfsnowgirl says about her more aggressive and confident skiing on the XTIs. I have seen the same on Redstar Edge GS skis quite a bit with women, lighter and intermediate skiers. Seems to confirm my view on more advanced piste skis having a wider ski level range these days and actually helping intermediates forward.
Not that I think surfsnowgirl is an intermediate skier though. I have no idea. But those are my own observations with friends of mine.

 

I am an intermediate so its all good :).  I spent quite a few years on a snowboard and short ski blades but just finished my 4th season on longer skis.  I'd say I am about a level 4 or 5 depending on the day and how I am feeling that day.  I ski 30-40 days a winter so I'm out there a lot at least for me.  

 

I am not a lighter skier and I have to say the weight of the XTI seems to work well with me and what I weigh.    I had my heart set on a different slalom ski but the second I skied the XTI I knew I'd found my ski :).  Something about the XTI is just confidence inspiring, I just felt comfortable and in the zone on them.  

 

Seems like Atomic has hit the ball out of the park with these latest batch of skis.  

post #7 of 8

There is an Atomic D2 3.0 non-FIS (woman's?) version (178/r17, 184/r18) ski review at Yellow Gentian at:

 

http://www.yellowgentian.com/ski-reviews/piste/atomic-redster-d2-3-0-gs

 

The same reviewer also reviews the D2 3.0 XT (175/r15.5, 182/r16.5), and likes it also, even more than the gs.  

 

http://www.yellowgentian.com/ski-reviews/piste/atomic-redster-d2-3-0-xt


Edited by ski otter - 7/10/16 at 12:36pm
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A different Yellow Gentian reviewer (male) reviews the Redster D2 3.0 gs ski (non-FIS) (178/17, 184/18) at

 

http://www.yellowgentian.com/ski-reviews/piste/atomic-redster-d2-3-0-gs#dellasausa-s-review-advanced-giant-slalom-skier

 

It's his favorite on piste ski.  It's not clear which length he is reviewing.   

 

This is apparently the same ski as the female-reviewed 3.0 gs version above, so I guess there isn't a male or female model, per se - just one version, except for the FIS gender specific spec skis.  And both women and men like this non-FIS ski, although perhaps in different lengths at times.   

Sorry for my confusion.    

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