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What Does Your Ski Area Charge Winter Passholders for Summer Lift Access?

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

Hi, everyone.

 

This has become a hot topic here in Jackson Hole this summer.  In all the years past, the ski resort has allowed winter season passholders to use the lifts for free in the summer.  That changed this year.

 

For summer 2016, that privilege has been adjusted.  Winter passholders can still ride the tram for free this summer during the "shoulder" seasons but now have to pay to ride the tram, the gondola, or the Teewinot (bike park) chair during the prime 10 weeks of the summer.  

 

There are summer "season passes" that can be purchased at a discount and it's also complicated by various deals, but the bottom line is that winter passholders can no longer just walk onto the tram or gondola and ride for free by showing their pass.  The new policy has caused a fair bit of blowback here and quite a few people are not real happy.

 

I'm just wondering how summer lift access for winter passholders is handled at other resorts?

 

Thanks for any replies.

post #2 of 26

Killington VT charges to ride the gondola to the summit and has for as long as I can remember.  R/T is $20 I believe.  Mountain bikers using the chairs need a summer bike pass.

post #3 of 26

Massanutten is a 4-season resort with more guests in the summer than any other time.  Those who buy a season pass for skiing/boarding don't get any perks after the ski season ends in March.

 

Whiteface season pass holders get a few small discounts on other Olympic venues that are good all year.  But no discount for riding the gondola in the summer time.

post #4 of 26

At Sun Valley, summer access used to included for all winter passholders, then for a few years it was inluded with an extra cost premium pass, and this year, when they have done away with the premium pass, a summer pass is 50% off for winter passholders.

post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies so far.  It's sounding like we've actually been lucky to NOT pay for summer access when compared to a few other resorts.

 

I appreciate all other replies.  This is kind of a big deal in JH.

post #6 of 26

Copper doesn't charge for just a chairlift ride if you have a winter season pass.   It's one of the perks and they are proud of it. 

 

"We’re taking you to the top. For free*. Copper Mountain is offering free round-trip rides on the American Eagle chairlift. Copper is the only resort in County to offer free chairlift rides, available from 10 a.m. – 4 p.m."

 

As you can see they allege they take you to the top.  Nope.  It's on Eagle and it goes to Solitude.  You can hike the rest of the way to the top.

 

Caveat.  You can spend $12 anywhere in the village and then get a free ride. 

 

If you are bringing your bike up then you have to buy a day pass or summer pass. 

post #7 of 26
It's still free here, excluding if you are bringing a mountain bike, then you pay. Plus you get all sorts of other perks:


Summer ’16 Perks for Winter 2015-16 Pass Holders

(2) $49 7-Zip Tours (Price not applicable to the 2 BOGO Zip Line Tours perk)
(2) Buy one, get one Zip Line Tours (Valid 6/18/16 – 6/30/16 and 8/16/16 – 9/25/16)
(1) Buy one, get one Walk in the Treetops (Valid 6/18/16 – 9/25/16)
(1) Buy one, get one 4-Ride Alpine Slide (Valid 6/18/16 – 9/25/16)
(1) Buy one, get one 2-Hour Mountain Bike Rental (Valid 6/18/16 – 9/25/16)
(1) $10 OFF 5-Zip or 7-Zip Tour (Valid 7/1/16 – 8/15/16)
(1) $10 OFF Aerial Adventure Park (Valid 6/18/16 – 6/30/16 and 8/16/16 – 9/25/16)
(1) 50% OFF Full Day Bike Access Lift Ticket (Valid 6/18/16 – 9/5/16)
(1) 50% OFF Full Day Bike Access Lift Ticket (Valid 9/9/16 – 9/25/16)

There was a passholders party prior to summer season opening as well, with free zipline rides, etc. Didn't go myself.

They are showing these perks (excluding the party) as continuing next summer as well.

Never saw you this past winter, maybe you should check us out.
post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by JimH View Post
 

Killington VT charges to ride the gondola to the summit and has for as long as I can remember.  R/T is $20 I believe.  Mountain bikers using the chairs need a summer bike pass.

 

 

With a Killington unlimited season pass scenic gondola rides during the summer are free. With any of their other passes scenic gondola rides are 50% off (retail value $25 r/t). With a unlimited season pass a season mountain bike add on is $89 ($189 retail value). There is no add on available with their other passes. I'm not aware of any discounts offered to pass holders for their summer adventure center (mountain coaster, zip line, etc).


Edited by steamboat1 - 7/1/16 at 6:23am
post #9 of 26

Here in Taos Ski Valley, the scenic ride in Kachina Basin is free if you have next seasons season pass. Seems like a smart way to encourage skiers to buy their passes early.

post #10 of 26
At Squaw Valley
Summer tram rides are free for pass holders
They still charge you to use the pool and hot tub
post #11 of 26
Aspen/Snowmass is free for pass holders.
Bikes are $10/day, $99/yr.

Anyone who hikes up, can ride down for free.
post #12 of 26

Apparently Gore lets season pass holders ride the gondola summer and fall.

 

post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by near nyquist View Post

At Squaw Valley
Summer tram rides are free for pass holders
They still charge you to use the pool and hot tub

Free for now--I suspect the ones that charge are frequently places with summer mountain biking. Squaw allows free downloads to anyone--pass or no pass--who hikes up.

post #14 of 26

Mt. Bachelor:

 

"This summer we're offering complimentary summer chairlift ride tickets to every 2015-2016 full season and midweek pass holder. Simply present your winter season pass to one of our team members in the ticket center of the Mountain Gateway building to receive your free scenic lift ride ticket. This benefit will be available for the duration of summer operations as many times as you want to visit the mountain.  

These complimentary chairlift ride tickets are not valid for mountain biking and are non-transferable; they are intended for you - one of our most valued customers - to enjoy."

post #15 of 26

Snowbasin, summer gondola pass is included with the top level "Premier Pass".    No break at all with lesser passes.

post #16 of 26

Stowe, AFAIK doesn't offer breaks for passholders on summer gondi rides. I know I couldn't go direct to lift with my employee pass. I had to contact my department head and get a voucher. I doubt I could get vouchers more than once a season. 

post #17 of 26

Interesting, people who buy an Epic Pass get summer "scenic access."  I guess that means being able to ride a lift that's open, but probably does not include biking or other summer activities that require buying a ticket.

 

post #18 of 26

Whistler is free for sight seeing and hiking. Charge for bike park and summer skiing.

post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Cockalorum View Post

Whistler is free for sight seeing and hiking.

Wow, that's pretty nice. Do they have P2P open in the summer?
post #20 of 26

Yes you you can ride P2P, Village Gondy, Peak Chair, Wizard, Solar Coaster and Creekside Gondy for free with a season pass. Right now with the bike park,sight seeing and skiing 11 lifts are spinning.

post #21 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cockalorum View Post
 

Yes you you can ride P2P, Village Gondy, Peak Chair, Wizard, Solar Coaster and Creekside Gondy for free with a season pass. Right now with the bike park,sight seeing and skiing 11 lifts are spinning.


That's good to hear.

 

Thanks to everybody for the replies.  It would appear that resorts that DO charge winter pass holders for summer lift access might actually be in the minority.

 

I'm disappointed that our resort has elected to start charging.  I hope that after they evaluate ridership and revenue at the end of the summer maybe they'll reconsider for next season.

 

On the plus side, the Jackson Hole Mountain Resort has been actively building hiking trails around the mountain.  Two pretty cool ones just opened.  One contours along the lower part of the Hobacks and then leads to the yurt in Rock Springs canyon.  The other does a loop up from the building at the top of the Bridger gondola around upper Casper Bowl to the Crags and then back around on the summit ridge before dropping down to the top of the gondola.  

 

And the most exciting thing under development is a brand new Via Ferrata climbing route.  It will include some of the rocky/cliffy features in Upper Casper Bowl.  I believe this will be the first Via Ferrata on US Forest Service land in the country.  If you've ever done Via Ferrata climbing in Europe, you'll know what I mean.  This will be very cool.   Here's a good explanation of what Via Ferrata is about:  http://www.dolomitemountains.com/en/resources/resources148.htm

post #22 of 26
Many years ago my husband and I went for two weeks hiking those types of trails in Austria. It was just great finding a whole series of pins being pulled out of a steep rocky path. We had to make many a course correction and U-turn. As members of the Austrian hiking club (still have the card in some drawer) we got to stay for dirt cheap in the Berghütte. Hiking hut to hut is something you don't see a lot of here in the US. Wish there was a lot more.
post #23 of 26

At Crystal Mountain (WA) pass holders get 50% off midweek gondola rides in the Summer.  It is an OK benefit.  Not real useful for weekend warriors like me.

post #24 of 26

A Via Ferrata at JH would be great!

 

The first Via Ferrata in North America is in West Virginia.  It's on my bucket list since I like rock climbing.  In particular, they do full moon climbs.

 

https://www.nrocks.com/activities/via-ferrata/

 

post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Interesting, people who buy an Epic Pass get summer "scenic access."  I guess that means being able to ride a lift that's open, but probably does not include biking or other summer activities that require buying a ticket.

 


That's correct. Just the lift ride. No bike haul, none of the other charged activities.

post #26 of 26

Sugarbush, VT.

 

Free lift serviced mountain biking, scenic rides & disc golf for full unlimited winter season pass holders.

 $30 add on for all other pass holders.

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