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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

Yes, I know its June but I am planning on a long holiday ski trip and I have to budget for newer skis for my tweener boy and new boots (custom fitted) and possibly new skis for my wife.  And I love bargain hunting though its unlikely I will buy anything until Ski Bonkers in early September and his boots will be purchased or rented later.

 

My son will be 12.5 years old by our December trip.  He currently weights 105 lbs and is 5 ft 3 in.  Does soccer, cross country, track, flag football, starting to do long boarding, etc.

 

He has been skiing since 6 or 7.  He had a short stint snowboarding but I encouraged him to master skiing before he becomes a boarder.  He does blues (blasting down with the old man running behind), and powdery blacks, but if its icy he won't go near black runs after crashing and sliding down an entire hill head first (never mind he never hurt himself).  On blues, he loves riding the middle or the sides through the trees, powder or the bumps, hitting small jumps, and popping out somewhere farther down a run.  Towards the end of this season, I introduced him to moguls--which he loved and I hated (I am snowboarder).  And I toke him down a number of black runs that were not icey and he loved them.  We never got around to getting the extra qualification to go into the "park" (in our area you have to watch a video and sign extra paperwork) and it was never an issue as he was having lots of fun with blue/black runs or just blasting down a green run as fast he can go.

 

And on our last day skiing, he realized his skis where twin tip and started to ride switch (not particularly fast).

 

Currently, his cheap father(me), has him using Line El Mini Invaders 133.  This is way too small and not well suited for him but I did not know any better when I bought them a few years ago and at the time our family budget was very tight.

 

So what skis would you recommend?

 

Volkl Mantra Jr

K2 Shreditor 85

Salomon Rocker 2

Nordica El Capo Shorty

Nordica Enforcer S Jr

Rossi Smash 7 (sized smaller)

Rossi Scratch Pro

Line??

 

Best Regards,

 

Brian

 

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post #2 of 15

No suggestions given that you have a 12yo boy who's already 5'3", 105 lbs and my daughter is in high school and only 5'0".  What length are you thinking of getting for his next pair of skis?

 

Might find some useful ideas in these threads that popped up under Teen Skis when I added the tag under Topics Discussed (right hand column).

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/144035/transition-jr-to-adult-skis

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/129580/skis-for-13-14-year-old-youth-or-adult

 

Summer months are a good time to be looking around for skis. :)

post #3 of 15
Obviously since you are in Seattle you know Evo.com.

As to custom boots, unless there is an issue why? He'll out grow them so fast it will make your wallet weep! Good fitting, stock boots great at this point in the intermediate range depending on skill set.

Skis I don't have much to say on this one.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 

My apologies.  I think I wrote poorly.  A large expense will be custom or at least professional fitted boots for my wife, which I have to budget for.  Her current boots are not working for her and it makes her less than motivated to go skiing with us.

 

I am very familiar with Evo.  I picked up my snowboard boots and bindings there but I may actually go to Sturtevants.com instead as their boot fitters are amazing and they are closer to my house (For her).

 

 @marznc If I do a low end adult ski my son, I would aim for a smaller size, maybe 140 if he does not grow more in the short term (he goes in spurts), as they are slightly heavier.  If we continue with junior skis, probably 148+ sized ones

 

Thanks for the links and help!

 

Regards,

 

Brian

post #5 of 15
Different story. Wife, custom boots yes!

On the skis for your son, one thing that is important is the level of skis that he requires. If he is still a beginner skier, beginner/intermediate skis are fine, if not definitely get into intermediate/advance rated as he will not be limited by the ski both in progressing and from progressing as in the next little while he is going to develop strength, wt and size.

Good jr skis will allow have that selection, if not consider light adult skis, again here only if he's at the higher end.

Length a shade long is ok as in a few months/years (depending on his growth cycle) he could go from to long to, to short. Again wallet issue. (Yes I know I'm gong to get a few flames for this, but it's about budgets and maximizing dollar value, I'd rather spend it skiing more than on the equipment).
post #6 of 15
Seattle boot fitting... General stuff. Go talk to Brant over at Sturtevants. They'll be a bit limited in stock this time of year, but it's worth the drive over to Bellevue. They might even have a deal on an appropriate ski for your kiddo as well. Evo has gear, but not the boot fitting expertise. If you do go to Evo, talk to Greg L.
post #7 of 15
The Rocker2 Jr in a 150 would be excellent. There is a set with bindings on eBay right now for something like $120 with Jr bindings. Probably chipped a bit at that price, but skis at this age are one season deals anyway.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by NayBreak View Post

The Rocker2 Jr in a 150 would be excellent. There is a set with bindings on eBay right now for something like $120 with Jr bindings. Probably chipped a bit at that price, but skis at this age are one season deals anyway.

Agreed.  I will take a peak.  After doing some research I was thinking Volkl Mantra Jr. was looking really good or the Gotama Jr.  I heard mix reports that the Rocker2 can be tough for a one ski quiver.

post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Seattle boot fitting... General stuff. Go talk to Brant over at Sturtevants. They'll be a bit limited in stock this time of year, but it's worth the drive over to Bellevue. They might even have a deal on an appropriate ski for your kiddo as well. Evo has gear, but not the boot fitting expertise. If you do go to Evo, talk to Greg L.

Yes.  Sturtevants is awesome.  I bought a pair of snowboard boots online.  The last time I ever do that as my feet have a major issues, to begin with.  I went to Sturtevants, and I think I got one of the owners, I believe.  Despite being a a very busy day, the gal heat molded my boots (that I not purchase there, but will next time).  I went from feeling I was going to bust an ankle to loving my boots!

 

They sponsor the skibonkers sale on Labor day but maybe I will head by sooner.

post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Seattle boot fitting... General stuff. Go talk to Brant over at Sturtevants. They'll be a bit limited in stock this time of year, but it's worth the drive over to Bellevue. They might even have a deal on an appropriate ski for your kiddo as well. Evo has gear, but not the boot fitting expertise. If you do go to Evo, talk to Greg L.


I've had great luck with Jim Mates at Custom Boot Service north of Lake Union.  Boot fitting is all he does.  Look him up online.

post #11 of 15

For skis, I have a number of 11 and 12 year old students in my group who are on the Volkl Mantra, and it is a great ski for all of them. However, 140 is a little short for your son at 5'3". My students are on 140 range skis, and they are mostly under 5' and under 100lbs. 150 range is probably better. 

post #12 of 15
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I've had great luck with Jim Mates at Custom Boot Service north of Lake Union.  Boot fitting is all he does.  Look him up online.

Jim is great, but doesn't sell boots. He only works on them.


Yes, and the Jr.Mantra/Gotama are great kids all mountain skis, but the OP's kid is on the edge of these not working as he's a bit too big or will be very soon. I know Sturts had some short lengths of K2 Shredittor 92's for a song a while ago. Brian at Seattle ski might have some great deals and something that will work, but they're only open by appointment in the summer. Might be worth giving them a ring.
post #13 of 15

I too had Jim Mates make me some footbeds and fit my AT boots and was very pleased.  I wore out those footbeds and I went to ProSki Seattle for new footbeds, have my liners molded, and to have my AT boots (Dynafit Mercury) punched (or replaced) and my Marker Kingpins mounted to my Fishcer Ranger 98ti.  I've only skied the footbeds 2x and the Mercuries once since then, but I'm generally pleased.  the owners are nice guys, they had a nice selection of boots and a big sale going on but they closed for the summer last Tuesday.

post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post


Jim is great, but doesn't sell boots. He only works on them.


Yes, and the Jr.Mantra/Gotama are great kids all mountain skis, but the OP's kid is on the edge of these not working as he's a bit too big or will be very soon. I know Sturts had some short lengths of K2 Shredittor 92's for a song a while ago. Brian at Seattle ski might have some great deals and something that will work, but they're only open by appointment in the summer. Might be worth giving them a ring.

Thanks!

post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post
 

For skis, I have a number of 11 and 12 year old students in my group who are on the Volkl Mantra, and it is a great ski for all of them. However, 140 is a little short for your son at 5'3". My students are on 140 range skis, and they are mostly under 5' and under 100lbs. 150 range is probably better. 

REI has 148's and backcountry has 158s.  I saw an El Capo Shorty 150 for a good price but never heard about that ski.

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