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2016 Head Monster 88 Ti vs 2015 Dynastar Powertrack 89 vs Nordica Firearrow Pro

post #1 of 27
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48 Male, 5'8, 220lb hopefully 210 soon.  Expert Skier my whole life.   Had 3 back surgeries, but still going strong.   Mostly skiing Colorado Summit county.   Have some Kastle FX104 184 for day with some snow.... Also some Volkl Gotama 186 and some High Society wide skis (125 waist, 186 length)  which I almost never use unless there is >12" snow.

 

Looking for some new front-side skis.

 

I have Nordica Hot Rod Jet Fuel 178 currently.  Previously had an earlier Hot Rod Jet Fuel 184, but after back surgery, they were kind of heavy and maybe a little long.  I wasn't quite as strong as I used to be.

 

In another thread I was considering the Firearrow EDT, but I can't find them at a price I want to pay.  Also not entirely sure they are the right ski for me.

 

So now I'm considering some other skis.

 

Looking for a ski that is 70% Front-side, Some Trees, up to 6" fresh snow, and some moguls (10% because of my back).  For front side I do like stiff skis and skiing fast when I can (crowds).   Had some Blizzard Bushwackers a few years ago and not stiff enough for me.

 

I know the recommendation of Demoing, but I don't mind buying skis without demoing and them selling them if I don't like them.

 

Found some great deals on the following Lengths I think that would be good are listed, but if you think I should go shorter, that's cool.  Just figured with Tip/Tail rocker, longer would be better at my weight:

2016 Head Monster 88 ti (184) $300

2015 Dynastar Powertrack 89  (186) $250

2015 Dynastar Powertrack 84 (184) $299

2015 Nordica Firearrow Pro (176) $400 with bindings

2015 Solomon xDrive 8.8 (184) $350

 

Any opinions?


Edited by mogulman1 - 5/12/16 at 8:03am
post #2 of 27
First one or the last one. I prefer the first.
post #3 of 27

Agree with Markojp. The Dynastars are about the softest 88 mm skis out there, so I wouldn't go for those. Salomon 8.8 FS or Brahma I would say.

post #4 of 27
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Brahma wouldn't be nice, but not many of those available at a cheap price.

post #5 of 27

Dynastar Powertrack 89 in 179 cm

post #6 of 27
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The Powertrack is cheap... enticing...   The question is...is 179 long enough for a ski with rocker.  

post #7 of 27

Long enough !

post #8 of 27

I am 6', 190 lbs and not an agressive skier and I think the Dynastars are too soft, they just didn't hold my weight, even with my lazy style. You say you like stiff skis - this isnt it. Even that great price won't stiffen them up, as it might you :cool

post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post
 

I am 6', 190 lbs and not an agressive skier and I think the Dynastars are too soft, they just didn't hold my weight, even with my lazy style. You say you like stiff skis - this isnt it. Even that great price won't stiffen them up, as it might you :cool

Thanks!

post #10 of 27

2 sheets of metal make this ski stiff enough for the soft Colorado snow and this is coming from someone who is  6 '' 2 and 215 lbs and this ski makes circles around most of the ski from the list above and I don't even talk about price.

post #11 of 27

Can't go wrong with the Head Monster 88, especially at that price. I might look around for a 177 though. That ski has very little rocker, so no need to go too long.

post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post
 

I am 6', 190 lbs and not an agressive skier and I think the Dynastars are too soft, they just didn't hold my weight, even with my lazy style. You say you like stiff skis - this isnt it. Even that great price won't stiffen them up, as it might you :cool

What Dynastars? The PT 89 has metal in it and is by no means soft. I agree the 84 would be too soft for an expert skier though. 

post #13 of 27
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Found some Volkl Kendos 2015 177 for $310 also.
post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by mogulman1 View Post

Found some Volkl Kendos 2015 177 for $310 also.

Very nice ski too. Would be a contender if was in your place.

post #15 of 27
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Found some Volkl Kendos 2015 177 for $310 also.


Concentrate on Monster 88 (177 cm) and the PT 89 (179 cm) -- you can't go wrong with one of these . (there are some differences between them however)

post #16 of 27

I would go with the Monsters. Not as stiff as the Salomons, but a little bit more agile and fun. Certainly stiffer than the Dynastars (which are quite soft), but still lots of fun. A great ski, but, despite the rocker (which is barely there), they don't ski long.

post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post
 


Concentrate on Monster 88 (177 cm) and the PT 89 (179 cm) -- you can't go wrong with one of these . (there are some differences between them however)

ok..  So PT 89 is only available in 186.     Monster is available in 177, 184.  Xdrive 179, x184.

 

I do like that PT seems to do a little better in the trees and maybe bumps.  Although I'm used to skiing pretty stiff skis in bumps.  Hot Rod Jet Fuels..etc...

post #18 of 27

Another ski you might want to consider is the Motive 86. Stiffer than the PTs, but more lively and lighter than the Monsters (good for the bumps and trees). Found a pair of 182s for 350 on Amazon, but there might be other deals out there as the ski won't be returning next year. http://www.amazon.com/2016-Fischer-Motive-86-Skis/dp/B014JF85D0 I really like the Monsters, and find them to be a good bump ski (I bought a pair of 83s, but would have bought the 88s if I were out west), but they are not as nimble as the PTs and they are heavier.

post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by mogulman1 View Post
 

ok..  So PT 89 is only available in 186.     Monster is available in 177, 184.  Xdrive 179, x184.

 

I do like that PT seems to do a little better in the trees and maybe bumps.  Although I'm used to skiing pretty stiff skis in bumps.  Hot Rod Jet Fuels..etc...


The PT 89 Is a  lot better in bumps and trees and it is not softer then the Hot Rod or the Jet Fuels (again it's a metal ski - 2 sheets) , however 186 size takes a little  from its abilities in bumps and tight trees. If your are really limited in these sizes then you should go with the 177 cm Monster. It's not as good as the PT 89 in bumps and trees , but might be better in wide open spaces and very high speed.

post #20 of 27

... but it's still pretty darn good. 

post #21 of 27
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Ok...  Ordered the Monsters in a 177.... Thanks everyone!!

post #22 of 27
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Ok...  Ordered the Monsters in a 177.... Thanks everyone!!


Congrats

post #23 of 27

Good choice

post #24 of 27
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In case anyone else is looking for deals. I got the skis from Corbett's for $325 (US). Also picked up some last year's Attack 13 from Sun and Ski for around $108 after coupon.
post #25 of 27

Great choice. Great price. And thanks for sharing the source. 

post #26 of 27

I think that you will be very happy with the Monsters.

post #27 of 27
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Wish I could try them out now! Maybe A-basin next weekend, if it isn't tooo crappy. Hard buying skis and waiting a whole season.
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