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post #31 of 42

Wow, that's quite an expansion! 
I don't normally pay a lot of attention to Sahoro, as it's now also a Club Med resort and when I was there (pre-CM) I enjoyed it but not nearly as much as other places in Hokkaido. That new area may need a visit this season, however.
I'd say it is a very good ski hill for beginners/intermediates, but with the Club Med (unless you go there) I'm not sure I'd recommend it. As I said, haven't been there since CM opened, but strikes me it may be more crowded than the hill should be. Of course, that's true of Niseko now, and no doubt other JaPow destinations (damn all you furriners!). The Club Med ain't cheap, whether it's worth it I suppose depends on the individual/family. 
If I get there this season i'll write up a trip report.

post #32 of 42
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Wow, that's quite an expansion! 
I don't normally pay a lot of attention to Sahoro, as it's now also a Club Med resort and when I was there (pre-CM) I enjoyed it but not nearly as much as other places in Hokkaido. That new area may need a visit this season, however.
I'd say it is a very good ski hill for beginners/intermediates, but with the Club Med (unless you go there) I'm not sure I'd recommend it. As I said, haven't been there since CM opened, but strikes me it may be more crowded than the hill should be. Of course, that's true of Niseko now, and no doubt other JaPow destinations (damn all you furriners!). The Club Med ain't cheap, whether it's worth it I suppose depends on the individual/family. 
If I get there this season i'll write up a trip report.


Yeah, noticed that Club Med is there.  Had only heard of Club Med for skiing in Europe before.  Certainly sounds like skiing in Japan is becoming more popular.

post #33 of 42
I know it's more popular.........and a lot more expensive.
Cheaper for Aussies to ski Nth America than Japan now.
post #34 of 42

I would urge Aussies to take advantage of the cheaper N.American skiing! :D

post #35 of 42
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I would urge Aussies to take advantage of the cheaper N.American skiing! :D


They are. :)

When I priced a holiday for our family of four earlier this year the accommodation costs were eye watering.

And things to do on days off skiing (I could be wrong of course) seems to be a little more limited. For example the drive between Salt Lake and Aspen offers Canyonlands and Arches NP. Is there anything like that dramatically different scenery/geography between ski resorts in Japan? We're not really into the 'cities' - natural attractions are what appeals. I understand there are plenty of onsens but that's not going to cut it for me for more than 5 mintues.

Still on my radar though. The snow quantity and regularity looks amazing.

post #36 of 42
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They are. :)

When I priced a holiday for our family of four earlier this year the accommodation costs were eye watering.

And things to do on days off skiing (I could be wrong of course) seems to be a little more limited. For example the drive between Salt Lake and Aspen offers Canyonlands and Arches NP. Is there anything like that dramatically different scenery/geography between ski resorts in Japan? We're not really into the 'cities' - natural attractions are what appeals. I understand there are plenty of onsens but that's not going to cut it for me for more than 5 mintues.

Still on my radar though. The snow quantity and regularity looks amazing.

 

Each area is a little different.

 

In the Tohoku region, we have tons of onsens like you'd expect, but some of the drives are beautiful as you dart up and down and many times through mountains. There are gorges to visit, mountain top shrines, small loveable towns, Lake Tazawa (deepest lake in JP), and delicious food you can't find in AUS or USA. Not to mention some of the best service and ease of travel I've ever had (as a tourist and as a resident).

post #37 of 42

accommodation costs were eye watering

 

Tell me about it!

Even the second round of package offers to Hokkaido -- which usually bring some pretty good deals -- are proving far less budget-friendly than in past years for Tokyo residents. If I were to book my usual three 4-day January packages, the total cost would be prohibitive this season. 

 

Snuckerpooks, I may be heading to Tohoku once or twice this season, Tazawako, Shizukuishi or Hachimantai. Let's do some runs and have a beer if you're around.
 

post #38 of 42
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Snuckerpooks, I may be heading to Tohoku once or twice this season, Tazawako, Shizukuishi or Hachimantai. Let's do some runs and have a beer if you're around.
 

 

I'll be here. I almost never leave Tohoku during the ski season. I'm just 30 minutes south of Shizukuishi so I'm a hop-skip away.

 

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But seriously, Hokkaido got significantly expensive. Maybe they are trying to make up for last years bad El Nino season?

post #39 of 42

Could be, but I suspect it's as much to do with JAL/ANA cutting back on how much they subsidize the package tours, and the few hotels left giving away large blocks of rooms to Chinese tour agencies.

BTW, any info on Geto Onsen? I've never been there and wondering if it's as much a powder stash as I've heard...

post #40 of 42
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BTW, any info on Geto Onsen? I've never been there and wondering if it's as much a powder stash as I've heard...

 

Yeah, I go there a lot. It's 30 minutes east of me!

 

GETO has a weird snow schedule, the first half of the season it will have some pow-pow but it is a bit shallow until the middle of January. Then it dumps for about 2-3 weeks! The beginning of February is great for powder. They can usually stay open until Golden Week. It has had that general schedule for 4 years, even with the El Nino of last year.

post #41 of 42

Sounds like it might be just the place to hit on the last weekend of January.My next open dates after that would be Feb 18-20, if that's not too late for powder.Let's stay in touch, first beer on me if I get up that way this season.

post #42 of 42

Having gone last year, and already booked for this year (2 weeks, last half of January) I gotta agree that Hokkaido is getting more expensive.

It's already pretty ridiculous that a short flight from Korea to Sapporo is costing 580$...... Then again, last year I just used my miles. Normally a flight to Sapporo runs about 250$ with the same airline... and Koreans aren't even serious skiers, so I'm unsure where all the demand is that is driving the price up.

Hotels/Hostels in Niseko also seem to be a little bit more expensive this year than last.... however I still bit the bullet and decided to revisit Hokkaido again (Niseko + Furano this year) because of how much fun I had last winter, and because it blows the skiing here in Korea out of the water.

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