When I said "they" I didn't mean to imply the plural, rather, that it could be a he or she.
Originally Posted by markojp
What do you think? And out of curiousity, do you represent the interests of any resort or ski school? Not an angry question, just wondering why all your posts are about safety and collisions?
This issue intrigues me because I can see valid arguments on both sides. I am posting this on my own, not representing any resort or ski school. I have been employed in recent winters as an instructor but, with the season over, am technically unemployed.
Why safety? A few weeks ago I heard about a death caused by a collision on the Tiger run at Breck- a lightly skied double black with the first half directly underneath the Super 8 interconnect lift. The run has a few blind rolls (one bigger than the other). The death happened on a non-powder, non-holiday Monday and I know that the resort was empty on the Wednesday when I skied there two days later. Then I saw the thread here about the kid getting flagged for jumping at Breck a few hours after I had told a guy he was stopped in a bad spot (under the cornice on Whale's Tail at Breck). The guy was less than appreciative of my safety warning. I started a thread about that, but like exploring things from multiple sides which is why I started this thread. While I don't think people should jump blindly without taking safety precautions, I also feel that people should do all they can to avoid stopping in dangerous spots. (For the record, I heard conflicting reports and don't know exactly where the death on Tiger took place. In no way am I implying that the victim was stopped in a bad spot or that he was even stopped at all).
Originally Posted by raytseng
A Most terrain parks I have seen with large features ARE roped off and has a single gated entrance at the top with the terrain park code. I think you can reasonably expect that if you've waited a few minutes that there is nobody in the landing zone. If someone did duck the rope to poach the terrain park, they're breaking multiple rules there.
If the resort DOESN'T rope off the terrain park, I think you can lay partial negligence on the resort for failing to rope it off, especially if a past accident has occurred and they didn't change procedures..
For scenario B: Don't all those huckers yell out "Dropping" before they do their awesome huck? i think that's a fair compromise, assuming that they know this particular line is the only way down and there's not like dropping onto a lower traverse or sometihng like that.
Yes, the resorts I am familiar with have ropes (or fencing) designed to have a single entrance to to most park features, especially the bigger jumps. For both the A & B scenario, I was trying to paint a situation where a person in the landing area would have had to been there for at least 2-5+ minutes prior to the person who was considering jumping blindly.
"Dropping" is part of park etiquette that some use and others don't- IMO, it is more designed to indicate who's is going next rather than to warn people below. Given the way sound travels, I think it may or may not be effective as a warning to someone camped out below the lip of a cornice when issued by someone who was skiing towards the cornice at a moderate or fast speed.