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Anyone tried the 2017 Salomon QST 106 yet?

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Has anyone had a chance to ski the new 2017 Salomon QST 106 yet? I'm looking for a 105-110 mm ski as my freeride ski for Europe (to pair with my dayly driver, the Fischer Motive 86 TI). 

 

I like the new Salomon design that features a light weight ski (want to put an AT binding on it), full sidewall and the light, but flexible core. That should make the ski more smooth - which I would really like. Don't like the carbonny feel of most light wieght skis much.

 

Anyone skied it yet?

post #2 of 16
Ski essentials posted a test film of the 99 on here somewhere a week ago, if that might be of some interest. Looks like nice ski.
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Thanks. Had already seen it. According to the local Salomon rep her in the Benelux the 106 is quite a different ski. Not sure if that's true.

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Thanks. Had already seen it. According to the local Salomon rep her in the Benelux the 106 is quite a different ski. Not sure if that's true.

 

I haven't had a chance to ski it yet, but am planning on doing so before the mountain closes.  I'll definitely share my experiences!

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Cheizz:

What length of Motive 86 are you on -> the 175 or 182 ?

On your Yellowgentian site they caption the ski as "Good solid German engineering" ..... Fischer, being Austrian, would dis-approve :D

 

 

As you are in Europe, for your 105-110 ski, have you considered any offerings from Zag or Black Crows ?

Some of the German online sites have Black Crows on big sale.

I grabbed Black Crows Atris (109) from Sport-Conrad when I was over there in late Feb.

 

- Andy

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Thanks. Had already seen it. According to the local Salomon rep her in the Benelux the 106 is quite a different ski. Not sure if that's true.

Interesting. Did he/she mention how it was different besides the obvoius extra 7 mm?
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Well, he basically said that the 106 is better on hard snow compared to other skis in that same width range (Soul 7 etc.) than the 99 was compared to its counterparts from other brands. Also, the 106 is supposed to be smoother and less carbon-stiff.

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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post
 

Well, he basically said that the 106 is better on hard snow compared to other skis in that same width range (Soul 7 etc.) than the 99 was compared to its counterparts from other brands. Also, the 106 is supposed to be smoother and less carbon-stiff.

 

The 99 is already pretty gosh darn smooth, so now I'm even more psyched to try the 106!

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I was thinking about the QST 106 with a kingpin as a midweight (maybe a little on the heavy side), solid dampish touring setup so will follow along and leave a review once I get on it in a few weeks. 

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I was thinking about the QST 106 with a kingpin as a midweight (maybe a little on the heavy side), solid dampish touring setup so will follow along and leave a review once I get on it in a few weeks. 

The Kingpin is probably the last binding I would ever use.  I work in a shop and the number of these things that have been brought in with broken fake carbon fiber pieces is ridiculous.  If you want a tech binding, just get a Dynafit and never worry about your binding breaking.  Seriously.

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Thanks for the heads up! I have broken a number of dynafits over the years but usually only after a decent bit of abuse. Overall,I do prefer dynafit and usually just ski speeds but needed something a little more powerful for some projects and used the beast for a season and couldn't take the awful fiddle factor. I loved how it skied but it was always iced, hard to step into, etc. Do believe the Dyna 2.0 is the best avail at the moment but have a pair of Kingpins that only used a few times last season and arent broken yet so they are going on the next ski. Perhaps lots of those broken ones were beaten at the resort by people who think they are a true crossover binding. I would pretty much never ski them in bounds. Can you explain what the weak point is from what you have seen?

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The broken part is a thin piece of plastic with a carbon fiber pattern printed on it.  It's part of the track for adjusting the heel, so when the ski is in use there is some pressure on it.  One of our regular customers broke on a trip to Japan and he said someone else there also broke one in the same place.  We've seen at least three others also.

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I've spent about a dozen days on both the QST-106 and 99.  Compared to its predecessor - the Q-105, the 106 with the added carbon layer and metal underfoot is definitely smoother, more damp and stable, and has more power out of the turn.  But without full length metal, it does still retain a light playfull feel.  I think with these modifications, Salomon is searching for the sweet spot with the QST line.  They may have come close to nailing it. 

 

Between the QST-99 and 106, I feel well covered for a west big-mountain resort.  The 99 for groomers and bumps, and the 106 for bowls, high alpine, and powder.  Either one are great in the trees depending on snow depth.

 

Speaking of snow depth, we recently had a big 15" day at Breck and I brought out my Q-115s from last year and went for first chair.  After several runs, I switched to the new QST-106s and actually liked them better in everything up to knee deep.  Comparatively, the flotation was still great and maneuverability superior.

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Thanks for the report @Fritzski!

Care to share what length were you on and your height/weight?

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Thanks for the report @Fritzski!

Care to share what length were you on and your height/weight?

Ht 5' 11"   Wt 185lb

 

Q98   180cm

Q105 181cm

Q115 188cm

 

QST99   181cm

QST106 181cm

 

You can check out my entire review on the Salomon Q Series at DesertSnowJunkies.com/salomon-q-series-review/

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Thanks John.  I'm similar weight but an inch taller, eyeing up the 106, so it's useful for me to to hear that you got decent float out of the 181.  I think a little longer might be optimal for a powder focused ski, but also feel the 188 is getting too long for trees.  Sounds like 181 is a decent compromise...

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