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skiing without footbeds

post #1 of 10
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hi there, does anybody ski without footbeds in the liner?

i have 16 skiing days in 3 trips that i have done without a footbed, the reason being that i wear a 29 mondo shoe size and the boot is 27 mondo. ( nordica dobermann WC 150, but with 95mm last )

the footbed is for a smaller foot and as a consequence it does not cover the whole surface of my foot and it leaves marks on my feet and toes, and this cuts bloodflow and the feet go numb, i even pinched a nerve ,and anyway the neoprene from the toe area stretches alot when i put them on,  so when i removed them the fit in that volume was perfect, i feel no discomfort


so is it wrong to ski without a footbed at all?

post #2 of 10

I ski with no footbed.


BUT, I have Intuition liners, and have a wedge under the arch of my foot attached to my boot boards, which acts like a footbed.  I do this for volume reasons in my boots.  My touring boots have Intuitions as well, but they are a much higher volume boot, and I wear footbeds in those.


Mntlion also does not wear footbeds in his alpine boots, but uses an arch wedge on his boot boards.  That's where I picked up the trick.  He can be found in the "Boot Fitting" forum from time to time.

post #3 of 10
I've tried it various ways. Currently use prescription orthotics that stop at front of arch. Use Intuitions; fine without an insert if they are for rec skiing a midfat, think inserts/supports/wedges help optimize location for carving hard, racing. Really depends on your foot, no?
post #4 of 10

I started out with no footbed in my intuition liners (Full Tilt boots). It worked fine for short periods but after a couple of hours in them my feet started to get pretty sore. I have a medium-hard arch so I think I was just missing the support.


This season I added superfeet footbeds and remolded my liners and couldn't be happier. Skiing all day is no problem and I feel like I have better control and stability now. 


I think it really comes down to each person's foot.

post #5 of 10

If the only way you can force you foot into a boot is by removing the stock foot bed, then perhaps the boots are too small?  If  your feet seem to be OK after a good solid day (6hours or more) skiing them hard, then it's probably OK, but if not, you're asking for some serious foot problems down the road.

post #6 of 10

IMO you should take those boots to a great boot fitter and see what he can do for  you.


Custom foot beds make a world of difference for most of us. But most of us are in a boot one size smaller not two.


My son skis in boots two or more to small, but he pronates and has flat feet. When he stands on the size tool and the fitter measures his foot as he stands, then pushes his ankles into position and puts a arch under his foot, you can watch his big toe slide back a couple sizes. He's most comfortable in his ski boots.


Before I had foot beds, I noticed I had an easier time make one turn then the other. When the boot fitter checked my feet, she said to me, let me tell you something about the way you ski. "you make a better right turn then a left turn, I can fix that". That was back about 1994.


The boot fitter may be able to work with your boots or recommend a better option, it is sale time.

post #7 of 10
Originally Posted by dahollings View Post

I think it really comes down to each person's foot.


I agree with this.  If you have flat feet and are comfortable, I don't think forcing an arch under them is a good thing and will probably cause terrible foot cramping.  OTOH, many people have an arch, even a small arch..and done properly a foot bed will provide some comfort and support.

post #8 of 10

Sounds like you're talking about the stock foot bed. A properly fitting custom footbed shouldn't cause you the same problem if you're willing to spend the money. Some kind of arch support--whether stock or custom is necessary for most folks. Note that a custom footbed molded without you standing on it (non-weight bearing) actually shortens your foot, since the foot lengthens when you stand on it if the arch isn't supported. The corollary of that is that it makes the instep higher, if that's an issue in your boots.

post #9 of 10

I did not use the manufactures or any foot bed when I skied in my Raichle Flexon Comp boots.  The last of that boot is a 98 MM and my 110 MM foot would not allow me to keep the foot bed in the boot.  But let me tell you about the performance of that boot.  All I had to do is just move my foot a fraction and ski would go up on edge and turn, it was by far the highest performing boot I have ever owned.  It was also the toughest boot on my foot but that is sometimes the price we pay for performance. 


One boot that I did use the manufactures foot bed was a pair of Dolomite boots.  The foot bed was made of ground up cork and silicone blend that after you skied them a few times it would mold to the bottom of your foot.  They worked VERY well but only were in their top of the line models.


My new boots this year Technica 10.2 HVL have the manufactures foot bed in but the shop did try to sell me an OTC foot bed.  They even said they would not do an alignment unless I purchased the OTC foot bed.  I have some of my own OTC foot beds from other sources and if I feel I need them next season I will drop them in the boot.

post #10 of 10
I have high arches & really high instep. A good boot fitter can make them fit with a good custom insole so your foot will have the support it needs.
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