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I'm 5'10", 180 lb, 22, and I've been an east coast skier for years. I love racing down groomers and making super-g style turns. However, I've just recently started taking trips to ski out west (Squaw Valley) and found that I really like steep bowls and tree skiing too. Now that I'm about to graduate college, I figure I'll probably be skiing out west a lot more; so I need a good pow stick.

 

I'm looking for something that can handle speed, is quick in the trees, and can handle crud/bumps. I've demoed the Squad 7 and I loved its playfulness in the trees but it wasn't quite stable enough at speed. I know what I'm asking for is almost impossible to come by; I'm just hoping people that have skied the 2015/2016 versions of these skis can help point me to my perfect fit...

 

Moment Bibby Pro

4FRNT Devastator 

Liberty Origin

Atomic Automatic 117

 

I'll be skiing in Chile and Argentina this summer and I'm looking to take one of these with me.

 

Thanks for your help!

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alcorn View Post
 

I'm 5'10", 180 lb, 22, and I've been an east coast skier for years. I love racing down groomers and making super-g style turns. However, I've just recently started taking trips to ski out west (Squaw Valley) and found that I really like steep bowls and tree skiing too. Now that I'm about to graduate college, I figure I'll probably be skiing out west a lot more; so I need a good pow stick.

 

I'm looking for something that can handle speed, is quick in the trees, and can handle crud/bumps. I've demoed the Squad 7 and I loved its playfulness in the trees but it wasn't quite stable enough at speed. I know what I'm asking for is almost impossible to come by; I'm just hoping people that have skied the 2015/2016 versions of these skis can help point me to my perfect fit...

 

Moment Bibby Pro

4FRNT Devastator 

Liberty Origin

Atomic Automatic 117

 

I'll be skiing in Chile and Argentina this summer and I'm looking to take one of these with me.

 

Thanks for your help!

Add the ON3P Billygoat to your list. 

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Add the ON3P Billygoat to your list. 

+1 Probably the most stable ski I've ever been on. Absolutely love mine.
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Add the ON3P Billygoat to your list. 

+1 Probably the most stable ski I've ever been on. Absolutely love mine.

Sounds good! I'll take a look at it too. How maneuverable is it in the trees?

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favorite powder skis: the following skis are the best do-it-all powder skis I've found so far, yet each is distinctly different, in a fun way: 

(And the ON3P Billy Goat may well be right up there with them; haven't tried it in more than 3" powder, in soft bumps and on groomers  - it shines at all three.)

 

best at pure powder float & #2 @ soft trees/bumps:

186 Atomic Autos 117 mounted ~+ 1 1/2 forward.  (I own the 117s from a few years' back.)  

Mounted with Schizos, 3 skis in 1.  
Amazing turning, and float feel.  Great on edge carving, big turns or short; and with mount moved forward more, surfy.  Very good in crud/chop, but not the best.  

 

best at charging powder and crud/chop & #2 @soft trees/bumps: 

189 K2 Pettitor 120.

 Mounted with Schizos, also 3 skis in 1.   

Amazing at charging through chop/crud and fall-line feel, and on edge or play, big turns or short.  Good float.  A versatile, forgiving tank.  (The Liberty Origin 116 is in a similar design and may have been inspired by the Pettitor, I gather.)

 

best at soft trees/bumps and steeps, and crud/chop (also the easiest, for me):

184 Volkl Katana 112.

Mounted at line.

Amazingly quick yet stable in all conditions. Good float in powder.  Big turns or short, on edge or playful.  Best ski at steeps and trees, for me.

 

All three skis are one ski quivers (especially the Pettitor and Katana).   Great at groomers, soft snow and powder.  All 3 ski well slowly, but can charge at sg speeds with stability, as long as the snow is a bit soft.   (The Pettitor may have a slight edge at this.)

 

I own all three skis, and use them all, thankfully.   Currently favoring the Katana, since it's the newest, and I was injured earlier in the season.   


Edited by ski otter - 3/26/16 at 2:25pm
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P.S. In afternoon resort conditions on some big powder days, or the day after, when chop/crud and windblown or rough conditions may prevail, it's hard to imagine how well the Pettitor (mounted forward) and Katana especially can do unless you've been on a ski like these, that can handle both powder and crud.   (Again, I haven't been on the Billy Goat in such conditions: it may well shine there too.)   

 

(For reference, I'm 5'10", around 150 lbs. near-expert, not elite)

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I skied my Billy Goats March 14-15 at Grand Targhee in 11+" of powder, soft bumps, and especially trees. They ripped, easy to control, just plow right through everything. I initially started on my Nordica Soul RIders but was getting bounced around more than I liked so I swapped those for the Billy Goats; no more getting bounced around. And for a ski that's 114mm underfoot they hold an edge remarkably well. I'm 5'7", 150 pounds, probably also near-expert. MY BG's are 184cm.

FWIW, ON3P didn't update the Billy Goats on their website for this season. The graphics shown are for 2014-15 and so are the lengt
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