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WTB: Motive 86 or Powertrack 89

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hey everyone, I joined here today & I'm just getting into the sport, so apologies if I screw this up. I'm looking for a pair of Fischer Motive 86 Ti's or Dynastar Powertrack 89's in new or excellent condition, preferably from this year or last. I'm thinking I'd like to be in 177-182 cm range. I'm 6' & 180 lbs, pretty athletic still. But, I mostly ski w my 8 yr old daughter, who's been skiing for a yr & is venturing into easier blues & some slow trees. I'd like a ski to let me cruise along w her & progress to blues & blacks the next few years. I occasionally get to take off on my own (if the wife comes w us) - not sure my form is textbook but I seem to be able to handle the blacks no problem & have enjoyed bombing down some groomers. Haven't really tried moguls or serious tree skiing, but I think I'd really like to try a bit of everything as she gets better. I've read a lot of reviews here & other sites, these 2 skis seem pretty capable all around & also "soft" enough to not kill myself as I'm learning ... not to mention being agreeable when I'm cruising groomers w the kid.

Let me know what kinda gear you all have for sale & I wouldn't mind if anyone wants to throw in their 2 cents about these 2 skis I have in mind. Thanks for the help!
post #2 of 10

well in my case im back into skiing after a 24  yrs absent and before i bought my new skis [my old skis were straight]

i tried the power track 84 and then i tried the pt 79 and the later were slightly  better.

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice ... I've been wondering if I should go a little narrower, like you suggest. Frankly, I settled on these just bc they're the widths I see in all the "best all-mountain ski" lists. Anybody else agree w canheat?

Btw, I could add that I'm currently on a pair of K2 Apache X 168's that I got on craigslist, 68mm waist. I guess I like them but busted 1 of the (integrated) bindings, would like to replace w something (allegedly) more versatile. I live in western NY, so mostly skiing the local 1200 ft hill w a combination of natural & man made snow. A lot of night skiing actually, if that matters. Took a trip to Okemo this yr, & would hope to do a couple 3 or 4-day trips per winter going forward, maybe even out west occasionally. (I have an aunt in Steamboat who might be sufferable for a few days!)
post #4 of 10

Both the Motive 86 and the Powertrack 89 are great choices. As you said: great to progress on but not too demanding. At your hight & weight I'd go for the 182 Motive 86 and 179 for the powertrack 89. I would go for the PT 89 and not the 84, on the account of the metal in the 89, whaich makes that ski a bit more stable and grippy on hard snow.

 

Wrote reviews on both these skis...

 

The Motive: http://www.yellowgentian.com/ski-reviews/all-mountain/fischer-motive-86#gijs-review-intermediate-piste-skier

The Powertrack: http://www.yellowgentian.com/ski-reviews/all-mountain/dynastar-powertrack-89 

 

Since I'm in Europe, I don't think any deals on this side of the ocean would interest you...

post #5 of 10

mogsie is selling a Motive 86ti (barely used) in 182cm.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/145872/fs-2015-fischer-motive-86-182-cm-attack-13

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The 2 skis you mention are certainly different in design yet they both pursue a similar purpose:  being a good all arounder.  I have no experience with the Dynastar Powertrack series (but historically have liked most dynastars I've ridden), but they are certainly a more modern new-fangled design compared to the pretty traditional fischer motive. 

 

I do own a motive 86 that is 175cm, and I like it to the point that I have no interest in replacing it (and that's saying something as I'm a serial ski purchaser according to my ski shop).  In fact, I like it so much I'm more than tempted to leap at a fischer motive 95 at the blowout price of $300 to replace/compare with my old Nordica enforcer.

 

In terms of width, where would you be using this new ski primarily? 

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the info! I live in upstate NY, so mostly just the local hills ... but w some trips. (see earlier post) I would say about 70% use on groomers, although most of that is w my 8 yr old - so, very high/top-end on-piste performance isn't too necessary. Actually, that's part of the reason I've gravitated towards these 2 particular skis. Of the reviews I've seen, they seem to be pretty forgiving, I'd like to cruise along w my daughter as she improves, & have something pretty agile in some bumps, trees & maybe even occasionally the park as I try to learn the ropes there.

post #8 of 10

My personal opinion:  you could consider narrower, and perhaps carvier, skis for your intended use and purpose, but I would not recommend going wider

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
Yeah I've been thinking that mcdave, thanks. What are the general thoughts about how skis of different widths within the same model vary? For example, would the reviews I've read about the Powertrack 89's be pretty applicable to Powertrack 84's? (except the basics like the 84 will likely be better on hard snow & the 89's will outperform on powder) Are the skis across a model usually very similar otherwise?
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Originally Posted by rs004 View Post

Yeah I've been thinking that mcdave, thanks. What are the general thoughts about how skis of different widths within the same model vary? For example, would the reviews I've read about the Powertrack 89's be pretty applicable to Powertrack 84's? (except the basics like the 84 will likely be better on hard snow & the 89's will outperform on powder) Are the skis across a model usually very similar otherwise?

That depends on construction as much as wasit width. Main differemce between Powertrack 89 and 84 is the metal, IMO, not the width.

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