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So, I'll be skiing CO next week from Wed-Sun.  Staying in Frisco (at the Holiday Inn near the Highway ).  I'll hit a few places-Loveland and Abasin...I'm to cheap for Vail as my off day area :  )  , but mostly I'll center in on Copper, especially on the weekdays..  So I have some basic questions:
 
1. The Town Shuttle stop is near the Hotel-Is it better than driving to Copper?. How close to the base areas does it drop off?  I'll have a car as well, but if I need to take a shuttle from the free parking anyway, I wonder if it just makes more sense to Hop on the Free Town Shuttle from Frisco.
 
2. What's the best base area at Copper to base out of??  Meaning, where do I want to boot up and stow my stuff (and can you sow your stuff, do they do abag check, etc)?  I'll assume there are multiple drop off points for town and parking shuttles, so what makes sense, where do locals set up shop?
 
3. Which lifts service the North facing terrain...Tony Crocker has 60% of copper with a northern exposure, but I can't get a bead on it on the right terrain to zero in on).  Last time I was at copper 10 years agho, I'm pretty sure I made a wrong turn down the resolution lift area on a warmer sunny day...so I'm thinking that's the south side.
 
4. Could someone tell me exactly how the copper Catskiing works: Do you just ski down to the area it's running and wait your turn? That'd be fine, I just want to know the standard procedure.  
 
5. Eastern Skiing (as most of you know) was pretty rough this year, I haven't made a single off piste turn all season (!!!), I'd like to get some trees in: what are the can't miss Glades at Copper?  Are there any?  Looks like there should be a layer of new snow by middle of next week, so i'm pretty happy.  Hell, one wintery turn is all I've wanted all season.  
 
 
Oh..one more question, I have a late (7:00pm) flight out of DIA on Sunday, hope to ski half day at Loveland...if I leave at one from the Mountain, think I'll make a 5pm check at the airport??  We hear a lot about the I-70 driving...just wondering what folks routinely deal with on Sunday drives back to the city.
 
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Liam View Post
 
So, I'll be skiing CO next week from Wed-Sun.  Staying in Frisco (at the Holiday Inn near the Highway ).  I'll hit a few places-Loveland and Abasin...I'm to cheap for Vail as my off day area :  )  , but mostly I'll center in on Copper, especially on the weekdays..  So I have some basic questions:
 
1. The Town Shuttle stop is near the Hotel-Is it better than driving to Copper?. How close to the base areas does it drop off?  I'll have a car as well, but if I need to take a shuttle from the free parking anyway, I wonder if it just makes more sense to Hop on the Free Town Shuttle from Frisco.
 
2. What's the best base area at Copper to base out of??  Meaning, where do I want to boot up and stow my stuff (and can you sow your stuff, do they do abag check, etc)?  I'll assume there are multiple drop off points for town and parking shuttles, so what makes sense, where do locals set up shop?
 
3. Which lifts service the North facing terrain...Tony Crocker has 60% of copper with a northern exposure, but I can't get a bead on it on the right terrain to zero in on).  Last time I was at copper 10 years agho, I'm pretty sure I made a wrong turn down the resolution lift area on a warmer sunny day...so I'm thinking that's the south side.
 
4. Could someone tell me exactly how the copper Catskiing works: Do you just ski down to the area it's running and wait your turn? That'd be fine, I just want to know the standard procedure.  
 
5. Eastern Skiing (as most of you know) was pretty rough this year, I haven't made a single off piste turn all season (!!!), I'd like to get some trees in: what are the can't miss Glades at Copper?  Are there any?  Looks like there should be a layer of new snow by middle of next week, so i'm pretty happy.  Hell, one wintery turn is all I've wanted all season.  
 
 
Oh..one more question, I have a late (7:00pm) flight out of DIA on Sunday, hope to ski half day at Loveland...if I leave at one from the Mountain, think I'll make a 5pm check at the airport??  We hear a lot about the I-70 driving...just wondering what folks routinely deal with on Sunday drives back to the city.
 
Thanks!

 

1)  With the start of spring break it might make more sense to take the Town Shuttle.  Don't have to worry about a parking space and the cost.  If you park in the free space then you still have to take a bus.

 

2) You can take the bus to the Passage Point stop.  Cross the street and just take the walk way to center village.  You will see all the skis and racks.  On the right is Jack's.  Bottom floor under Jack's there are lockers to store stuff.  There is an entrance just to the left of the ticket windows. 

 

3) Most of the lifts are north facing.  If you bring up their trail map everything from Super Bee to Lumberjack including the higher lifts are all pretty much north facing.  Alpine is probably NE or ENE.  Resolution east.  Black Jack and Mountain Chief are off the backside and south.

 

4) cat skiing is a 1st come 1st server ski down and wait your turn thing.  It opens at 10:00 a.m Fri. thru Sun.   I recommend going early and be prepared to wait.  I would also check to make sure they are running before going unless you plan on skiing the back side anyway.  Getting down there can be done a couple of ways.  Again bring up the Copper trail map and check it out.  The easy way is take Flyer up and then one of the several ways over to Rendevous.  Easy ways are just ski off the lift and down the easy road onto the bottom of Revenge and over.  You will see a bunch of people going that way.  Or you could go around the front of the lift to Coppertone or Upper Sluice.  Or just jump right in and go down Indian Ridge if you prefer a steeper bumpy ride down.  Get on Rendevous and take it up.  Get off and ski straight off to Otto Bahn.  Easy traverse road that will take you there.   Another way would be doing the same but instead of skiing over to Rendevous go to Sierra (very close to each other) and take Sierra up and then skiers right (facing south) and one of the trails down.  Again I would check the trail map to help make the decision.

 

5)  Think I will wait until after this weekend to let you know about this one.

 

6) Yes, on a *NORMAL* day leaving Loveland by 1:30 or even 2:00 p.m. should be plenty of time.  DISCLAIMER:  I am not responsible for any delays, traffic jams, road closures, missed flights.  :D

post #3 of 7
Absolute the shutle bus. Holiday Inn is the last stop before the bus go onto freeway so it's just as fast as driving.

0n the last day, Loveland is a good choice. I usually ski till 2pm and still make any flight after 5'ish. But I never done it on Sunday so can't be sure. Still, from Loveland, you miss the tunnel jam already so should be in better position
post #4 of 7
Weekend trafic can be bad but is generally lower in late March. Loveland misses most of it. I'd leave at 330 and feel comfortable. 1 is overkill, even 2 is very cautious.
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I've skied Copper dozens of times over the years.

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Originally Posted by Liam View Post
 
So, I'll be skiing CO next week from Wed-Sun.  Staying in Frisco (at the Holiday Inn near the Highway ).  I'll hit a few places-Loveland and Abasin...I'm to cheap for Vail as my off day area :  )  , but mostly I'll center in on Copper, especially on the weekdays..  So I have some basic questions:
 
1. The Town Shuttle stop is near the Hotel-Is it better than driving to Copper?. How close to the base areas does it drop off?  I'll have a car as well, but if I need to take a shuttle from the free parking anyway, I wonder if it just makes more sense to Hop on the Free Town Shuttle from Frisco.
 
2. What's the best base area at Copper to base out of??  Meaning, where do I want to boot up and stow my stuff (and can you sow your stuff, do they do abag check, etc)?  I'll assume there are multiple drop off points for town and parking shuttles, so what makes sense, where do locals set up shop?
 
3. Which lifts service the North facing terrain...Tony Crocker has 60% of copper with a northern exposure, but I can't get a bead on it on the right terrain to zero in on).  Last time I was at copper 10 years agho, I'm pretty sure I made a wrong turn down the resolution lift area on a warmer sunny day...so I'm thinking that's the south side.
 
4. Could someone tell me exactly how the copper Catskiing works: Do you just ski down to the area it's running and wait your turn? That'd be fine, I just want to know the standard procedure.  
 
5. Eastern Skiing (as most of you know) was pretty rough this year, I haven't made a single off piste turn all season (!!!), I'd like to get some trees in: what are the can't miss Glades at Copper?  Are there any?  Looks like there should be a layer of new snow by middle of next week, so i'm pretty happy.  Hell, one wintery turn is all I've wanted all season.  
 
 
Oh..one more question, I have a late (7:00pm) flight out of DIA on Sunday, hope to ski half day at Loveland...if I leave at one from the Mountain, think I'll make a 5pm check at the airport??  We hear a lot about the I-70 driving...just wondering what folks routinely deal with on Sunday drives back to the city.
 
Thanks!

I'm not a local, but I've skied Copper dozens of time, including earlier this year, so know the mountain pretty well.

 

1 - don't know, never taken the shuttle.  We've always just driven from Dillon area, arrived early (8:00 hour), and parked in the Alpine lot near the East Village.  Shuttle from the lot to the village is short and go from there.  

 

2 - East.  Center Village is most crowded, West is all green never ever/beginner terrain.  Having always driven in, we've always just booted up at the car and had everything we need on us.  An option we did this past year was to take a back pack and lock it up on the ski racks outside JJs (bar at base of Superbee lift).  We had PB&Js and drinks in the backpack, which we ate over lunch at that base area.

 

3 - my fav way to ski copper is to take superbee up and do a warmup run down whatever is groomed and leads back to that lift, assuming early mtn entry it's just ski right back on, if after 10, then there would be a line so do a day of decision.  Then head east to Alpine (A) chair for a few bump runs, there are some relentless ones over there.  After a few of those back down to superbee to go right off the chair past the storm king poma (T bar now) and drop into Hallelajeh (H) bowl then down to E chair for a few laps of same.  H bowl seems to hold some of the best snow on the mountain.  After a few of those,  keep going down past E chair to center village and take the American Flyer lift, go left off the lift down into the bowl and to the Sierra (S) Chair for a few laps of Union bowl via buzzards alley.  The area to the right of the S chair (if on the chair) tends to get sun baked, so it'll be pretty cruddy on a sunny day.  After that, heading to Union Meadows if snow coverage is good can be some great runs, the trees at the bottom of Union Meadows can be great, but that area seems to be subject to worse snow conditions than others on the mtn.  

 

Should be a little after lunch by this time, I like to head over the the Resolution Bowl and do some laps of lower spaulding bowl via double or triple zero down to Reso bowl before heading to what I think are the best glades at Copper, which is 17 Glades.  You can get to higher points on spaulding bowl via storm king, but on a normal day, I've never found it to be better than the "zeros" so havent done often. Then a couple of trips up and down Superbee lift and H bowl again to round out the day.

 

I've experienced crappy snow too many times in copper bowl under the mtn chief and black jack lifts, so dont really bother with it.  YMMV.

 

4 - never done it, have friends who have and say it's a lot of fun for a change of scenery.  I've been told those who have avy gear are given preference and that the wait can be 30 minutes or more, so being that I've been traveling to get to Copper, the time tradeoff for me vs. more ski time wasnt worth it.  again, a YMMV thing.

 

5 - Glade 17 is my favorite.  Spaulding glades are good, but a little harder to get to that 17.  Trees under union meadows are great if good snow, but I've found more variability in snow conditions over there than 17 or spaulding.  Black bear and Free Fall, between A and Superbee are the tightest and steepest I've found at Copper, issue with those is if you come out too far down or too far skier's left, it requires a traverse back to superbee, which can be a bummer.

 

Dont know on the flight ?, but I'd ski A Basin over Loveland if trying to squeeze in some runs on a flight day.

 

Have a great time!

post #6 of 7

OP, I didn't make it to Spaulding over the weekend.  Went to MJ on Saturday so on Sunday I only made it up Excelerator once.  I was done.  Based on the forecast and if it holds it really shouldn't matter.  Spaulding should be good.

 

@MDcatV lists some great runs.  My only suggestion would be if you have not been off piste as you stated or skiing much at all would be to consider starting in the center village and working your way west.  Or you can just go to the west.   The warm up run would be Andy's Encore to Rosi's Run.  It will get you right back on Super Bee.

post #7 of 7

Sorry, I meant east  NOT west

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