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Best all-in-one skis for both him and her? [mostly for mid-Altantic]

post #1 of 9
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A bit of background:  I've only ever skied with my Head Monster 77s and only skied on PA/NJ/VA slopes, so I haven't had a chance to try anything else out yet.

 

I'm not meticulous enough to keep multiple skis, so I'd rather only have one set for myself to take care of.  I also need to get the gf a pair of skis, so I'm looking for a female set of skis as well.  I generally try to find demo or used so I don't need to have the latest and greatest.

 

I have only been to the east coast slopes (Blue, Mt Creek, Massanutten, etc), but I do plan on making it out to a big mountain yearly from now on (Vermont, Utah, etc).  While I can ski most of the blacks around here confidently, I want something I can grow into.  I also want something that I can play around with in the park and also something I can take out to a powdery mountain.  I've been looking at the Rossignol Soul 7 and Experience 88, are these good skis for what I want to do and what other skis should I look at?  And what is a similar one in women's form?

 

Thanks in advance!

post #2 of 9

Welcome. If I were you, I'd keep your 77's for ice and rocks. A nice frontside carver, IMO. As far as the rest, it would help to know your weight and height, as well as your gf's, and a sense of what level you are. I'd guess from your Monster 77 that you would like something in the high 80's to low 90's, so yep, a E88 is a highly regarded and very versatile ski that fits a lot of folks. The Head Rev85, from this season, are still around at good prices, and is another great all-around. I wouldn't recommend the Soul 7 unless you see yourself just skiing soft snow and trees at moderate pace and you are a lighter to average guy. Other great do-alls you could buy cheaply are the Fischer Motive 86 and the Volkl RTM 84. These would all work well in the east for normal to softer conditions, and would be a great ski for out west. 

 

As for your girlfriend, hard to know until you can give us an idea of her level and size. If she's small and light, she might do better with a women's model that is engineered for same. If she's larger and taller, then a unisex ski like the above should work. If she's you level, then something a bit narrower, assuming you are different sizes, would work.

 

Now if you're determined to stick with one ski, erase all of the above and realize that most of your skiing will involve eastern conditions. So something like the Blizzard Latigo or the Volkl RTM 81 or the Salomon X-Drive 8.0 should do the trick. The Head Monster 83 might be worth a look if you just kiss off really icy days. 

 

Finally, have you gotten new boots in a while? They will improve your skiing more than new skis, and in terms of your gf, she'll be a lot happier skiing with you if her feet don't hurt and she can turn her skis properly. Eg, no, rental boots are not the answer...

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Thanks for the response!  I'm not much of a gearhead so this is good information. I have a pair of full tilt classic boots that I'm happy with so I'm good there.  The thing about my skis is that I got the 77s before I started skiing so I picked something with good reviews and grew into it.  As for my level, I'd say I'm a solid intermediate. I've only been skiing for two years.  I'm not great but I can get down an east coast single black confidently.  I can't pole plant and I don't shower snow when I carve but I won't wipe out as long as there are no moguls.  I've hit 50+ mph without feeling out of control as long when the conditions were good and the slope was empty.  I've never tried powder or glade skiing but I feel like those would be my next target.  I can ski switch on a bunny and I'd like to be able to keep working on that.  I want to try some simple park stuff but I probably won't be doing pipes or extreme jumps anytime soon.

 

Mostly I have no experience in having a "quiver".  I have no idea when I'd want to switch skis and I wouldn't think about switching skis for different days.  I like the idea of having an all-in-one ski so I never have to think about which ski I'd want to bring; I want something that can ski in any condition without giving out on me, even if it doesn't excel.  The 77s have been good for me in that regard but I feel like it's too heavy for hops and tricks and it wouldn't hold on a big mountain.  Maybe the 77s are enough and I just need to learn how to do the above better.

 

As for the gf, she's just starting out this past season with rentals so it's all new gear at this point for her, but I'd like to get her something she can grow into.  She's very much a green level skier at this point and hasn't made it to the blues yet, but I'd like for her to ski any condition that I will ski in.  Is there a female version of the E88?

 

I am 5'7 and 145 lbs, she's 5'4 and 130 lbs, so we're on the smaller side of the scale.

post #4 of 9

Many recreational skiers keep a two pair quiver with one pair very much like your Head M77s for regular packed and groomed slope cruising.  What's missing for many is a wider snow for DEEP powder days when a 77 waist will sink and make turning and getting around way more difficult.  I'd keep something in the 75mm-85mm range for everyday cruising and get something in the 95-105mm waist range for snow days if you do want to have a powder ski option.

 

Beyond that there are as many kinds of skis as there are turn situations for quiver crazy folks.. race skis, bump skis, park skis, etc..

post #5 of 9

Yes, there is a women's E88, it is called the Temptation 88.

 

I think you might want to look at a twintip ski, something like the Slat from Rossignol, since we are talking Rossi skis. They are some of the best 'do-it-all' skis out there if your idea of 'all' includes skiing switch and park shenanigans. Pretty much every brand makes an 'all-mountain' or 'directional' twin in the high 80's to high 90's waist width. I'd look at them if I were you.

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Originally Posted by skisobad View Post
 

A bit of background:  I've only ever skied with my Head Monster 77s and only skied on PA/NJ/VA slopes, so I haven't had a chance to try anything else out yet.

 

I'm not meticulous enough to keep multiple skis, so I'd rather only have one set for myself to take care of.  I also need to get the gf a pair of skis, so I'm looking for a female set of skis as well.  I generally try to find demo or used so I don't need to have the latest and greatest.

 

I have only been to the east coast slopes (Blue, Mt Creek, Massanutten, etc), but I do plan on making it out to a big mountain yearly from now on (Vermont, Utah, etc).  While I can ski most of the blacks around here confidently, I want something I can grow into.  I also want something that I can play around with in the park and also something I can take out to a powdery mountain.  I've been looking at the Rossignol Soul 7 and Experience 88, are these good skis for what I want to do and what other skis should I look at?  And what is a similar one in women's form?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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Originally Posted by skisobad View Post
 

Thanks for the response!  I'm not much of a gearhead so this is good information. I have a pair of full tilt classic boots that I'm happy with so I'm good there.  The thing about my skis is that I got the 77s before I started skiing so I picked something with good reviews and grew into it.  As for my level, I'd say I'm a solid intermediate. I've only been skiing for two years.  I'm not great but I can get down an east coast single black confidently.  I can't pole plant and I don't shower snow when I carve but I won't wipe out as long as there are no moguls.  I've hit 50+ mph without feeling out of control as long when the conditions were good and the slope was empty.  I've never tried powder or glade skiing but I feel like those would be my next target.  I can ski switch on a bunny and I'd like to be able to keep working on that.  I want to try some simple park stuff but I probably won't be doing pipes or extreme jumps anytime soon.

 

Mostly I have no experience in having a "quiver".  I have no idea when I'd want to switch skis and I wouldn't think about switching skis for different days.  I like the idea of having an all-in-one ski so I never have to think about which ski I'd want to bring; I want something that can ski in any condition without giving out on me, even if it doesn't excel.  The 77s have been good for me in that regard but I feel like it's too heavy for hops and tricks and it wouldn't hold on a big mountain.  Maybe the 77s are enough and I just need to learn how to do the above better.

 

As for the gf, she's just starting out this past season with rentals so it's all new gear at this point for her, but I'd like to get her something she can grow into.  She's very much a green level skier at this point and hasn't made it to the blues yet, but I'd like for her to ski any condition that I will ski in.  Is there a female version of the E88?

 

I am 5'7 and 145 lbs, she's 5'4 and 130 lbs, so we're on the smaller side of the scale.

As a woman who skis in the Mid-Atlantic, the Temptation 88 seems on the wide side for your GF since she is still a cautious beginner.  Perhaps look around for the Temptation 80 or Temptation 84.  I demo'd those at Massanutten (northern VA) last year and they were good on short groomers.  Note that I'm an older advanced skier who is petite and likes Rossi in general.  For going out west I have the Black Pearls, 88 underfoot, but I would not recommend the BP for a beginner.

 

What length skis were you two renting?

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

When we went to massanutten they gave her 130s, but she's 160cm in height.

 

80 sound like they would be good for her.  We're not too far from Massanutten so our usual ski trip would be there.  Do you think they would hold up for an occasional trip out to west or should we aim for something wider/rent when we go?  I've never been out west so I have no idea how an 80 would hold up.

 

On a side note, we went to ski world and they fitted her for Dalbello Kyra 75s, are those decent?

 

Thanks for your response!

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Originally Posted by skisobad View Post
 

When we went to massanutten they gave her 130s, but she's 160cm in height.

 

80 sound like they would be good for her.  We're not too far from Massanutten so our usual ski trip would be there.  Do you think they would hold up for an occasional trip out to west or should we aim for something wider/rent when we go?  I've never been out west so I have no idea how an 80 would hold up.

 

On a side note, we went to ski world and they fitted her for Dalbello Kyra 75s, are those decent?

 

Thanks for your response!


Typically beginners are given very short skis when renting at the resort.  For a beginner, one guideline is chin height.

 

When I started skiing out west more regularly after buying boots and skis, my skis were 75 underfoot.  They were fine for most days since I was staying on groomers.  I kept using them out west for a year after I started exploring off the groomers a bit.  If there was new snow I could always rent for a day.

 

Ski World where?  The question usually asked is not what boot was bought but how the process went.  A good boot fitting usually means making an appointment and typically takes more than an hour.

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