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Rocker vs Camber / Wood vs Foam

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

Would someone be nice enough to explain (probably for like the 100th time) what the difference or pros/cons are between a ski with rocker and ski with camber, as well as one with wood in the core versus foam?

 

And how would this fit a beginner/intermediate skier (child) doing most of the skiing on the east coast (groomers, front side). 

 

Thank you -

 

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post #2 of 10

Foam vs wood is easy--foam is lighter, softer, and cheaper than wood and is usually found in the core of cheaper, beginner oriented skis.

Rocker is not vs camber-- a ski can have both. The most common shape for a ski is tip rocker, camber underfoot, +/- tail rocker. Rocker refers to and upturning of the tip or tail of a ski. Rocker makes a ski easier to turn and tip rocker makes it float better in powder. A full rocker ski is shaped just like the rocker on a rocking chair and is meant for powder. Camber is the opposite shape--the center of the ski is off the snow with no weight on it. Cambered skis are meant for skiing groomed runs and are more stable at speed and hold an edge better. A fully cambered ski is meant for high speed carving and racing on hard snow. These days most skis for general use under a variety of conditions at all ability levels will have tip rocker (also called early rise), camber underfoot, and maybe some degree of tip rocker. 

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 


Thanks!

 

What would you recommend then for an intermediate skier, a child in this case?

 

Seems like a ski with a wooden core would be best vs foam and perhaps one with a rocker/camber/rocker or rocker/camber/flat rather than full rocker or full flat. 

post #4 of 10
How old/big is the child? With kids' skis, there aren't a lot of options in terms of core material, shape and rocker/camber.cool.gif
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

How old/big is the child? With kids' skis, there aren't a lot of options in terms of core material, shape and rocker/camber.cool.gif

 

He is seven going on eight in a couple of months - I would say about 42 inches tall and about 45 lbs. So, likely be looking at 120cm skis, I don't think any longer given his body measurements and his ability (intermediate).

 

Thanks -

post #6 of 10
At that age don't worry about the core material, will be foam anyway, or wether it has rocker or not. This isn't like buying skis for adults or even juniors. At that age I wouldn't even buy skis, just do a season rental, boots included. That way if he outgrows something you can just swap it for a larger size.
post #7 of 10

I'm not a good one to advise re kids skis. We would go to the swap and buy whatever looked like it would work at the right price for the older one, and then pass them down to the younger one. They both survived. They weren't racers of course. 

post #8 of 10

We have a shop in our area that does seasonal rentals for around $100 for kids gear. We also have another shop in the area that has a "junior trade-in" program where we buy the gear but can trade it in anytime during the season for free (to change sizes) and then trade it in for half price the following season. With the latter program we paid $100 the first year for boots and skis and then pay $25 to trade in boots and $25 to trade in skis in following years. We generally trade in skis every two years and boots every year. Perhaps you have a similar program in your area?

post #9 of 10

Unless your child is racing, super proficient (e.g. can create good angles, rail carves, and ski pretty much anywhere on the mountain), and putting in north of 40 mountain days a year skiing/training the construction of the ski isn't going to matter.  All but actual race construction skis at 120cm are going to be foam core. (and even true race skis based on construction and materials are few at that size)

 

Honestly find a proper length (too long is not good) and color they like and go have fun.

post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by hbear View Post
 

Unless your child is racing, super proficient (e.g. can create good angles, rail carves, and ski pretty much anywhere on the mountain), and putting in north of 40 mountain days a year skiing/training the construction of the ski isn't going to matter.  All but actual race construction skis at 120cm are going to be foam core. (and even true race skis based on construction and materials are few at that size)

 

Honestly find a proper length (too long is not good) and color they like and go have fun.

Definitely the red ones.

One option for larger boys is a woman's ski--and if they complain just play them this--

(Just kidding).

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