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Park City April 1

post #1 of 24
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We have done this trip at this time several times. Sometimes we ski the PC areas, sometimes we head to Alta, Solitude, etc.

This year we have a condo right on Canyons and we're really excited for ski in ski out access. My question is about the trending weather patterns and rain. I read that it rained the other day and PCMR was a mess.

I'd rather ski at PCMR this year because my non skiing wife is joining us. It would be cool to meet for lunch in town or ski back to the condo for drinks, etc. but I also want some decent skiing and would drive to Alta for it for sure.

I want to buy discount tix in advance and that is why I am wondering about weather and conditions. Anyone have any insight?

Thanks!
post #2 of 24

Did you buy lift tickets in advance for previous trips?  How did that work out?

 

You seem to be asking for a weather forecast 3 weeks out.  Wasatch Snow Forecast does not make firm predictions even for 3 days in the future.

 

I've been skiing Alta in April for several years in a row and will be there again in early April.  Some years, it seems like folks in staying in Park City are skiing in LCC most of their days.  There are always people who leave Park City to spend a day or two at Alta or Snowbird because they have never been there or because they want to ski more ungroomed terrain with better snow.  This year snow depths are better than last year, so perhaps more people will stay in PC.  I've had a day or two  where it was so warm at the base of Alta that I went shopping in SLC instead.  Hopefully that won't happen this time, but it's impossible to know right now.

post #3 of 24

Wait as long as possible.   

 

VR may start selling next years pass and sometimes they include the remainder of this season.

post #4 of 24
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Did you buy lift tickets in advance for previous trips?  How did that work out?

 

You seem to be asking for a weather forecast 3 weeks out.  Wasatch Snow Forecast does not make firm predictions even for 3 days in the future.

 

I've been skiing Alta in April for several years in a row and will be there again in early April.  Some years, it seems like folks in staying in Park City are skiing in LCC most of their days.  There are always people who leave Park City to spend a day or two at Alta or Snowbird because they have never been there or because they want to ski more ungroomed terrain with better snow.  This year snow depths are better than last year, so perhaps more people will stay in PC.  I've had a day or two  where it was so warm at the base of Alta that I went shopping in SLC instead.  Hopefully that won't happen this time, but it's impossible to know right now.

 

That was us last year.  We stayed in Park City, with plans of taking advantage of the ski in/ski out condo we rented.  Granted, last year was awful in Utah, but Snowbird and Alta were still running near full capacity in mid-April, as compared with Park City, which was devastated.  The conditions were not great at the beginning of the week, but they were still at least as good as an above average day in the Northeast.  On top of that, the LCC got the best storm of the year that week and we had powder and free refills for 2 days.  

 

The drive was not really that bad.  We did it 6 days in a row.  It is about 45 minutes, but it is easy.  I think it was 3 roads or something like that, much of which is highway.  We left the condo around 8:30-9, were on the slopes no later than 10 and skied until 3:30-4.  We were back at the condo before 6, even with a beer and a slow departure.  That still left a decent amount of the evening open for us.  And because it was April, we had sunlight until 7:30 I think.

 

As for lift tickets, Park City did not offer any meaningful discounts, even when they were operating at 10% capacity.  The lowest ticket price I saw was still at least $80.  On the other hand, you could get decent lift ticket deals for Alta on Liftopia.  Plus, I found several people selling Snowbird tickets on ebay.  I think they sometimes were vouchers from a Warren Miller show, but they also were $30, which is a steal.

post #5 of 24

For those who are unfamiliar with Utah skiing, note that a Park City lift ticket now includes Canyons.  That is a change from 2014-15.  That's why considering an Epic Pass for 2016-17 might be an option, but only if someone is interested in skiing at a Vail ski resort next season AND if April 2016 is included for people who buy a pass early.

post #6 of 24
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Thanks everyone. I get that it is still to early to tell and I know LCC gets more snow. I guess I just have to keep an eye on the forecast and terrain conditions for the next few weeks. I don't mind the drive to Alta and it is my favorite spot in Utah, but like I said I have the condo and the wife. So I was hoping we could take advantage of the condo and the new expanded terrain.

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Thanks everyone. I get that it is still to early to tell and I know LCC gets more snow. I guess I just have to keep an eye on the forecast and terrain conditions for the next few weeks. I don't mind the drive to Alta and it is my favorite spot in Utah, but like I said I have the condo and the wife. So I was hoping we could take advantage of the condo and the new expanded terrain.


Reminds me of the adage "a watched pot never boils."  I'm trying hard not to check Utah weather too often until perhaps a week before I fly to SLC in late March.  Not succeeding.  :rolleyes

post #8 of 24
I skied PC last week, Feb 27-Mar 3 and it was good, if only marginally so. Definitely Spring Conditions and getting thin in a lot of spots. Still, quite worth while. I just spent the last 4 days skiing Snowbird. Sat and Sun were also Spring Conditions, but with fewer thin spots, as would be expected. Sunday night's 8-10", the same precipitation that fell as rain on PC, really improved things considerably and Monday morning was an absolute feeding frenzy, but we managed a number of good powder runs (I was chasing around some locals). Yesterday was still good, and with more snow in the foreseeable forecast, LCC is looking good. I know this doesn't help much with the three week out crystal ball gazing, but at least it is a snapshot of the current situation.
post #9 of 24
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Thanks everyone. I get that it is still to early to tell and I know LCC gets more snow.

It's not just that the Cottonwoods get more snow, it's their higher elevation and northerly exposures that help preserve the snow pack and keep the snow soft. Even if it doesn't storm, the Cottonwoods should still have better overall conditions.

I'm facing a similar dilemma next week. I'm booked to stay in Ogden and Ski Snowbasin off my Powder Alliance Pass, but if it gets too warm, I'll be driving to the Cottonwoods. Stay high and look to the north!
post #10 of 24
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It's not just that the Cottonwoods get more snow, it's their higher elevation and northerly exposures that help preserve the snow pack and keep the snow soft. Even if it doesn't storm, the Cottonwoods should still have better overall conditions.

I'm facing a similar dilemma next week. I'm booked to stay in Ogden and Ski Snowbasin off my Powder Alliance Pass, but if it gets too warm, I'll be driving to the Cottonwoods. Stay high and look to the north!

For what it's worth I was skiing Utah Feb 27 - Mar 2 and ended up hitting Snowbasin as well as the BCC and LCC. The temps were warm all 5 days and it hadn't snowed in 2-3 weeks at any of the resorts. The high at Snowbasin was around 55° I think, but we still had a ton of fun there. The sun had softened things up by mid-morning and a lot of the bumped up areas were actually fairly soft and friendly. The snow in the Cottonwoods was certainly better overall  and high up on the mountain things were in decent shape considering the situation. However lower on the mountains pretty much everything that hadn't been groomed was icy, rock-hard, nastiness.

 

I don't think you're going to have a bad time anywhere you go. Enjoy!

post #11 of 24
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Thanks everyone. I get that it is still to early to tell and I know LCC gets more snow.

It's not just that the Cottonwoods get more snow, it's their higher elevation and northerly exposures that help preserve the snow pack and keep the snow soft. Even if it doesn't storm, the Cottonwoods should still have better overall conditions.

I'm facing a similar dilemma next week. I'm booked to stay in Ogden and Ski Snowbasin off my Powder Alliance Pass, but if it gets too warm, I'll be driving to the Cottonwoods. Stay high and look to the north!


If it is warm and no new snow for awhile I would head to Snowbasin vs LCC. I think the melt/freeze cycles actually hurt the higher elevation/north facing slopes because they stay frozen all day. I spent one day at Snowbasin, one at Alta, then one at PC.  By far the best days were SB + PC simply because they softened sooner and you could move around chasing the sun. Right now all the resorts have a decent base so that's a non-issue.

post #12 of 24
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If it is warm and no new snow for awhile I would head to Snowbasin vs LCC. I think the melt/freeze cycles actually hurt the higher elevation/north facing slopes because they stay frozen all day. I spent one day at Snowbasin, one at Alta, then one at PC.  By far the best days were SB + PC simply because they softened sooner and you could move around chasing the sun.

That's more of a day by day call, not three weeks in advance.
But yes, last weekend the lower terrain in Aspen, skied much better than the high stuff at Snowmass.
post #13 of 24
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If it is warm and no new snow for awhile I would head to Snowbasin vs LCC. I think the melt/freeze cycles actually hurt the higher elevation/north facing slopes because they stay frozen all day. I spent one day at Snowbasin, one at Alta, then one at PC.  By far the best days were SB + PC simply because they softened sooner and you could move around chasing the sun.

That's more of a day by day call, not three weeks in advance.
But yes, last weekend the lower terrain in Aspen, skied much better than the high stuff at Snowmass.


Agreed. Cloud cover, wind, temps can make a huge difference day to day with old snow. The tough day at Alta was because of cooling temps and cloud cover all day after a period of very warm temps. Not a good recipe. I'm sure if it had been warm and sunny that day we would have been able to find some good snow.

post #14 of 24

If you ski PCMR on 4/1 remember that no Clowns or people dressed as clowns will be allowed to ride their lifts.:cool

post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 
Well, we are skiing 4/2, but I don't think I would have dressed as a clown, anyway! So, the forecast looks cold for next week. I'm still trying to decide if we should stay at PCMR or head up to Alta. how is the snow right now?
post #16 of 24
I can't speak to now, but two weeks ago the coverage and snow quality up at LCC were waaay better. I can only think that, if anything, the difference has been magnified in the interval.
post #17 of 24

Park City got 7 inches from the storm this week.  Alta got 17 inches.  Just saying . . . :)

post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
Yea, as much as I love Alta (Bird not so much), I kind of wanted to stay at PCMR since we have the condo there. I think we may head to Alta at least one day, maybe 2 depending on snow conditions. I'm going to wait until the last minute to decide and grab discount tix for Alta if we decide on that.

Thanks everyone, I'll check in again toward the end of the week to see what is what smile.gif
post #19 of 24

If you want to say hello at Alta, there are Bears around in early April.  I'm looking forward to catching a powder storm next week since I fly out March 29.  That's why I've been watching Utah weather so closely.  :D

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/144371/alta-and-or-snowbird-when-are-you-going-to-be-there-in-2015-16

post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 
So, lots of snow overnight and temps look perfect for our long weekend! How's the skiing?
post #21 of 24
Thread Starter 
Anyone skiing PCI now?
post #22 of 24

In LCC this weekend, but might get to PC next Tues or Wed.  How long you staying?

post #23 of 24
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Gee are skiing Saturday through Monday smile.gif
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We got about a foot and a half over the last week in PC. Skiing was good on Tuesday with about a foot of fresh. The snow was heavy and the base underneath was very hard but it was a good time. The lowest elevations did get a bit of rain during this last storm. The weather this weekend is supposed to be very nice so spring conditions will be the rule. Slush at the bottom. Coverage should be good.

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