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post #1 of 19
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Hi ! I have a one question. What do you think about Russian ski resorts ? Do you want to visit some of it ? 

post #2 of 19
No
post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by snow point View Post

Hi ! I have a one question.
1) What do you think about Russian ski resorts ?
2) Do you want to visit some of it ? 

1) I don't think about them.
2) No, not ever.
post #4 of 19

It would be interesting. From the very little I have seen the skiing looks pretty nice and I have always liked Russian' hospitality  

I rarely travel far from B.C/Alberta  for skiing but would  if it's on while i'm in the area.

Trouble is where we are planning to go next in Russia is an awful long way away from Sochi.     

post #5 of 19

Wait, that's TWO questions. ;)

 

If I were to head that way from the US, and having never skied in Europe, it would be awfully hard for me to justify bypassing all of the Alps to get to Russian resorts. 

post #6 of 19

Yes! But it's not just about the skiing, is it? 

post #7 of 19
I would love to go heli skiing on Kamchatka. smile.gif Anyone want to sponsor my trip? There's also a very nice article in Powder about a freeride group trip to Siberia (Ingrid Backstrom, etc... ) that looked pretty amazing. I don't really understand all the 'no', but then again, I'd ski Iran given the chance. There's politics, and then there's culture/geography/snow. The former is fleeting, the latter, more universal, variable, and binding.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

I don't really understand all the 'no'...

I'm assuming that for a lot of people, like I was above, are thinking of a single trip or the next trip they may take. 

 

Sure I'd love to ski the Russian resorts. I think it would be a great vacation. But I've never skied outside the US, so I was thinking that the Russian resorts I know of would be somewhat far down my list of places to visit right now.

 

I'd be hard pressed to say that, if I had the time and money, there's any ski resort I wouldn't want to visit.

post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

I don't really understand all the 'no', but then again, I'd ski Iran given the chance. There's politics, and then there's culture/geography/snow. The former is fleeting, the latter, more universal, variable, and binding.

 

It's not just about politics; it's about logistics, cost, and experiences.

 

As someone who has lived in Russia, I wouldn't choose to ski there because I have much better options from here. I can get to Geneva or Zurich on a cheap, direct flight from my local airport in about an hour and a half. From either airport, I can get to world class ski areas that offer amazing terrain, great food, great atmosphere, and good service in a couple of hours or less. So, I can leave my house in the morning and be in the resort for a late lunch.

 

To get to the ski areas around Sochi or Mt. Elbrus, I'd have to take a train or bus from here to another airport, fly to Moscow, and then get a connecting flight to Sochi, Nalchik, or Pyatigorsk. The total distance and extra layover makes it nearly as time consuming and expensive as a trip to Canada or the US. As for the ski areas themselves, from what I've seen, they're quite small relative to the Alps, and a larger portion of the terrain is above tree line, which means I'm even more likely to be affected by bad visibility than in the Alps (which is already bad enough). On top of that, I still have memories of what service is like in Russia. The polite description is "not great."

 

So for me, skiing Russia would mean more money and more travel time in order to ski smaller areas that are more likely to have bad visibility and bad service. As for heliskiing, I'd probably choose to go to Canada.

post #10 of 19
Years ago I was invited ona trip to Kamchatka... couldn't make it work because of my work schedule, but having flown over it several times, 'small' wasn't a thought that entered my mind. smile.gif
post #11 of 19
I heli skied kamchatka and krasnaya polyana.
While fun, I would rather go to Alaska.

And my reason is not politics at all, it's the boorish Russian people.
Anywhere you go in Europe, Russians are always the loudest, it's annoying.
post #12 of 19
Yeah, I think my impressions of the people are colored a bit by great experiences with some folks from Vladivostok. Moscuvites seem a pretty testosterone drive aggro bunch if I were to dare go so far as to generalize.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post

I heli skied kamchatka and krasnaya polyana.
 

 

What kind of heli's where they flying? 

 

Some of the old military ships I've seen,  look like they're held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

post #14 of 19

with a lot of $$$ on the plate, Kamchatka would be nice. Krasnaya polyana is very questionable due to limited snow coverage (can not really plan in advance).

But on the other hand, with a lot of $$$ on the plate, Canada, BC would give you better terrains and service all together and it is much closer for me, so the answer is 'No'.

If I would want an extreme, I would rather ski India

post #15 of 19
Mi8, big heli, 20+ people.
Great machines, you don't even feel when you're taking off, and can land in 100kph winds.
In kamchatka, poorly maintained, krasnaya polyana, fine, they were owned by gazprom.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Years ago I was invited ona trip to Kamchatka... couldn't make it work because of my work schedule, but having flown over it several times, 'small' wasn't a thought that entered my mind. smile.gif

 

The original question was about Russian ski resorts. And while the mountains themselves aren't small, the developed ski areas certainly are. For me, the time and cost involved in getting there wouldn't be worth it.

post #17 of 19
Oleg, krasnaya gets a lot of snow from the black sea. But it's crazy expensive and horrible customer service.
post #18 of 19

isn't too warm in Krasnaya? I had watched last Olympics and the snow coverage was horrible, Rosa Khutor and Krasnaya are neighbors, right, both close to Sochi - Russian Riviera. Service there is traditionally Russian (means - doesn't exist) Prices are probably the same as in Switzerland and France

post #19 of 19
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It's really interesting to read all of the comments. I have a opinion about all that you all wrote here. Perhaps the service at the Ru resorts are not the best of the best. Perhaps russian people is not the most polite people in the world. But i know that if you ever find yourself in Russia, you will not be bored. Rate this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCINo8Hbp6o I absolutely understand that this mountains is not so hight as alps and i know that the ski areas in Alpes is bigger but i think trip to the deep Ru (not Moscow or Saint-Petersburg) from Europe or USA is like a flight to the space just unusual and fascinating​. You need many time, a lot of patience. But now you don't need many money because exchange is very favorable rate. Sorry for my english i know it's not perfect...

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