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I'm just wondering whether there are some dryland drills I can do (in preparation for my next trip)?

 

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TDK, I agree with you 100% regarding this being a good dryland drill but you can still do this one year round, in the water, on a boat, in the snow, on the chairlift, on the seat of a snowmobile, on the kitchen table, hanging from a chandelier and, from what I've heard, some even do it in beds and on couches, so ...  I guess there is no excuse not to follow through with such exercises. The only trick is finding a willing participant. A Craigslist post in the ballerina section and meeting over coffee would be a good start. Just make sure to first consult with a pulmonologist and try to remember that this is a family site.

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TDK, I agree with you 100% regarding this being a good dryland drill but you can still do this one year round, in the water, on a boat, in the snow, on the chairlift, on the seat of a snowmobile, on the kitchen table, hanging from a chandelier and, from what I've heard, some even do it in beds and on couches, so ...  I guess there is no excuse not to follow through with such exercises. The only trick is finding a willing participant. A Craigslist post in the ballerina section and meeting over coffee would be a good start. Just make sure to first consult with a pulmonologist and try to remember that this is a family site.

 

Hahahaa.... on the chairlift :)

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Hahahaa.... on the chairlift smile.gif

Remember to bring down the bar first! Does make it a little tight though.
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Agreed, Tip--one continuous movement, without necessarily placing the tail on the snow and then pivoting around it. It's quite easy, and most people have more than enough flexibility to do it. It just takes a little practice. It does take a little more flexibility--or at least, a little more commitment--with longer skis. The longer the ski, the higher you'll need to lift or kick the ski up to clear the snow with the tail.





Kick turns can be useful--they are worth practicing. Practice before you need them on something steep!

Best regards,
Bob

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 A kick turn on firm steep terrain looks terrifying because it's so dangerous.

I dunno, Rod--that was the First Notch at Arapahoe Basin, in my video clip above, where Annie made it look pretty easy! (First Notch is in the high rocky chutes on the right in the background of the scene that begins at around :09 in the video. It's plenty steep!) But you're right--you really don't want to screw up on something that steep....

Thank you, Bob! Earlier in the thread I thought I've been doing my kick turn wrong with one continuous movement, so I've been practicing placing the tail this week until finally reading the rest of this thread now. I've made kick turns on steep runs (at least 35) if I'm not confident I can clear the next turn. But not on icy condition.
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Just going to say that I feel like kick turns don't need that much flexibility. I was born with tends too short in most of my joints and multiple doctors have told me that I am the most inflexible person they have ever met and that I would need surgery to see any meaningful improvement. I can still do kick turns, I think its just a very awkward feeling movement that people aren't comfortable with. If you pick up your foot to look at the bottom of your shoe you've rotated your leg most of the way you do in a kick turn....

I wouldn't call it "flexibility," exactly. I am pretty flexible, overall. I can bend over and put my palms on the ground (yes, with straight legs lol), I could always do the splits, but only left leg first, I wasn't even close in the middle. I have some weirdness in my hips, SI joint trouble, right femur is kind of twisted inward, and my last xray the doctor told me I had rotational scoliosis and said "Oh that could get bad" but he was the foot doctor and that was the end of that, damn it's a wonder I can get out of bed in the morning. wink.gif  

So what I'm saying is, We all have stuff going on in there and who knows... I don't know exactly what is going on in my hips, but as long as I don't play too much tennis, they stay pain-free. I suspect whatever "it" is also inhibits my kick turns. So I don't do them. That's all. 

Agree with Segbrown. I am very inflexible, most of my life I cannot bend over to come close to my toes with my finger tips. Now I just barely. However, I can do kick turns one after another all day. Perhaps I have wider pelvis and also walk more like a duck with toes pointed outward. I also have shorter skis, of same length as my height.
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