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Northeast Peak Pass 2016-17 for 7 mountains including Hunter, Wildcat, Mount Snow

post #1 of 27
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With the addition of Hunter into Peak, the 2016-17 Peak Pass includes seven mountains in the northeast.  Early season pass prices are good until April 30.

 

* Hunter, NY

* Wildcat, NH

* Attitash, NH

* Crotched, NH

* Mount Snow, VT

* Big Boulder, PA

* Jack Frost, PA

 

There is a midweek option called Traveler for $299.  Top price with no blackout dates is $599.

 

 

From FAQ:

Can I ski or ride the rest of the season if I buy?

You sure can.  Purchase today and the pass is valid for skiing and riding for the remainder of this season as well as the 2016/2017 winter at all 7 mountains.  

What are your pass deadlines? 

Early season pass pricing and our payment plan opportunities are available now through April 30th.  Prices on the Explorer, Ranger & Traveler Passes will increase by $200 after April 30 and then increase another $200 after October 18, 2016. 

 

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Moderator Note: Posts #2, 4 moved from another thread started by kelly001

post #2 of 27

Not since the days of the ASC ski pass do I remember such a deal on a season pass.  7 mountains (Wildcat, Attitash, Hunter, Crotched, Mt. Snow, Jack Frost, and Big Boulder) for under $600 for an Unlimited adult pass with only $99 down and ski for the rest of the 2015/2016 season.  Ranger pass for $499 is an even better deal with only 11 blackout (no blackouts at Crotched!). 

 

I suppose some good came out of this dismal winter season in the Northeast and the drop in price is an attempt to salvage this season. (Are seasonal ski pass sales typically down after a bad winter?) To be seen if other multi-resorts season passes will try and align themselves.  Right now the New England Pass (3 resorts for over $1,000), the Max Pass (was over $700 last year, but only 5 days per resort), the Ultra Pass (3 resorts for $1,600), the White Mountain Superpass (4 resorts for $949), not to speak of single resort passes with no reciprocity at other mountains (Sugarbush at $1,729 or Stowe at $1,788) seem like pretty mediocre offerings.

 

Moderator Note: This post and #4 was moved from another thread

post #3 of 27

Thanks for posting that up.  I'm definitely looking at the traveler pass as I pretty much plan to do most of my skiing midweek next year.  One day at each would be a savings of over $100 if I bought the pass within the deadline.    

post #4 of 27

The price has nothing to do with the season. Those are just the early prices. Everyone does that. They'll be going up $200 at the end of April, and another $200 mid October.

post #5 of 27
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Was there a Peak Pass for a similar amount of money last season?

post #6 of 27
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Was there a Peak Pass for a similar amount of money last season?

 

No, last year they had the Nor'Easter season pass (unlimited), which included the same mountains minus Hunter and was $1,029 until April 30, 2015.

post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Was there a Peak Pass for a similar amount of money last season?

 

No, last year they had the Nor'Easter season pass (unlimited), which included the same mountains minus Hunter and was $1,029 until April 30, 2015.


Wow, then the Peak Pass sounds like a pretty big change.

 

I'm always a bit jealous of the pass prices in other regions.  In the southeast, passes are $400-600 and that's for one small place that have less than 150 skiable acres and very little ungroomed terrain.  Although there are some crazy deals in the spring for around $200 for WV for those people willing to do a little extra driving.  Worked better last season when closing dates were late March or early April.  This spring very few trails will be open past mid-March.

post #8 of 27
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Wow, then the Peak Pass sounds like a pretty big change.

 

I'm always a bit jealous of the pass prices in other regions.  In the southeast, passes are $400-600 and that's for one small place that have less than 150 skiable acres and very little ungroomed terrain.  Although there are some crazy deals in the spring for around $200 for WV for those people willing to do a little extra driving.  Worked better last season when closing dates were late March or early April.  This spring very few trails will be open past mid-March.

They did offer the Granite Pass for a similar amount of money last year. That included Wildcat, Attitash, and Crotched.

 

This pass is a game changer for New York metro area skiers. It doesn't change much of anything for real New England skiers. Most of them would not be caught dead waiting in line at Mount Snow, and the NY and PA mountains might as well be Florida from their perspective.

post #9 of 27
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Anyone get the Peak's Pass yet?  Early season price lasts until April 30.

post #10 of 27

I got mine. I don't really see this being a big change for me. I already had the Granite Pass. All this means is a just slightly lower price point. I think it saves me about $30.

post #11 of 27
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I got mine. I don't really see this being a big change for me. I already had the Granite Pass. All this means is a just slightly lower price point. I think it saves me about $30.


Are you mostly going to use it at Wildcat?  I may have a reason to be in Boston next winter, so the Traveler Pass is tempting.  Could theoretically stop by Hunter on the way when driving from NC to Boston.  A bit of a detour but I prefer to avoid NJ and metro NY highways.  Wish I had a crystal ball to have an idea of whether or not snow conditions will be decent next season.

post #12 of 27
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Are you mostly going to use it at Wildcat?  I may have a reason to be in Boston next winter, so the Traveler Pass is tempting.  Could theoretically stop by Hunter on the way when driving from NC to Boston.  A bit of a detour but I prefer to avoid NJ and metro NY highways.  Wish I had a crystal ball to have an idea of whether or not snow conditions will be decent next season.

Yes, Wildcat is my most visited mountain. I'll also use it quite a bit at Attitash and Crotched. I'll probably visit Mt Snow once to say that I did, but I'm in no rush to get there. The crowds are outrageous and the terrain is not compelling. There is no way I ever make it to Hunter.

post #13 of 27
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They did offer the Granite Pass for a similar amount of money last year. That included Wildcat, Attitash, and Crotched.

 

This pass is a game changer for New York metro area skiers. It doesn't change much of anything for real New England skiers. Most of them would not be caught dead waiting in line at Mount Snow, and the NY and PA mountains might as well be Florida from their perspective.


I disagree with this being a game changer for NY metro area skiers. For NYC, it is basically a Hunter/Mt Snow pass. The chances of me going to NH are very low (too far and no reason to drive by all of VT) and the chances of me going to PA are zero as I can get to way better skiing in the Catskills in the same amount of time. The same reason you avoid Mt Snow also applies to many NY metro skiers. I rarely ski Mt Snow. I do ski Hunter for day trips, but I usually used the discount card and now this card has been eliminated. I think the Peak Pass has great options for NE skiers who will ski Mt Snow and also have an easier drive to NH and PA skiers who ski at JF/BB and now have weekend options attached to their pass.

post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by bliz1978 View Post
 

They did offer the Granite Pass for a similar amount of money last year. That included Wildcat, Attitash, and Crotched.

 

This pass is a game changer for New York metro area skiers. It doesn't change much of anything for real New England skiers. Most of them would not be caught dead waiting in line at Mount Snow, and the NY and PA mountains might as well be Florida from their perspective.


I disagree with this being a game changer for NY metro area skiers. For NYC, it is basically a Hunter/Mt Snow pass. The chances of me going to NH are very low (too far and no reason to drive by all of VT) and the chances of me going to PA are zero as I can get to way better skiing in the Catskills in the same amount of time. The same reason you avoid Mt Snow also applies to many NY metro skiers. I rarely ski Mt Snow. I do ski Hunter for day trips, but I usually used the discount card and now this card has been eliminated. I think the Peak Pass has great options for NE skiers who will ski Mt Snow and also have an easier drive to NH and PA skiers who ski at JF/BB and now have weekend options attached to their pass.


So besides people in NJ and eastern PA, the other folks who think the Peak Pass is worth considering probably live in western CT or western MA?

post #15 of 27
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So besides people in NJ and eastern PA, the other folks who think the Peak Pass is worth considering probably live in western CT or western MA?


I do not think it works in western CT or western MA either. Depending where you are in western CT/MA, it is 1:30 to Hunter and 1:50 to Mt Snow. Why go to Hunter? Plus there are the Berkshire areas for local trips.

 

If you are a Hunter season pass buyer, you now have a Mt Snow in VT and maybe a long trip to North Conway, NH, to hit Attitash/Wildcat. Crotched is a 1000 vert day area about 3 hours south of Attitash/Wildcat. In eastern MA the pass is good, Crotched for your day area and Mt Snow/Attitash/Wildcat for weekends. For many people, the pass is still very disjointed. If Peak could figure a way to buy Burke and/or Jay (highly unlikely) the pass becomes a real choice.

 

post #16 of 27
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So besides people in NJ and eastern PA, the other folks who think the Peak Pass is worth considering probably live in western CT or western MA?


I do not think it works in western CT or western MA either. Depending where you are in western CT/MA, it is 1:30 to Hunter and 1:50 to Mt Snow. Why go to Hunter? Plus there are the Berkshire areas for local trips.

 

If you are a Hunter season pass buyer, you now have a Mt Snow in VT and maybe a long trip to North Conway, NH, to hit Attitash/Wildcat. Crotched is a 1000 vert day area about 3 hours south of Attitash/Wildcat. In eastern MA the pass is good, Crotched for your day area and Mt Snow/Attitash/Wildcat for weekends. For many people, the pass is still very disjointed. If Peak could figure a way to buy Burke and/or Jay (highly unlikely) the pass becomes a real choice.

 


Ah, now that I've looked at the Peak Pass map, what you are saying makes sense.  Had heard of Mt Snow but never bothered to locate it on a map.  Of the Peak list, I've only skied at Hunter and Wildcat (1 day) on the way to other NE ski resorts.  Seems as if BB, JF, and Crotched could be considered feeder hills for Hunter, Mt Snow, and Attitash/Wildcat depending on where someone lives.

 

Given that the MAX Pass is $599 as a standalone multi-destination pass before May 2, that seems like a direct competitor to the Peak Pass for someone who drives to ski from northeast PA, NYC, northern NJ, CT, RI, or MA.  Especially if they are interested in one of the MAX Pass destinations out west.

 

For someone willing to drive and ski mid-week, $299 for the Travelers Pass is tempting though.

 

post #17 of 27
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They did offer the Granite Pass for a similar amount of money last year. That included Wildcat, Attitash, and Crotched.

 

This pass is a game changer for New York metro area skiers. It doesn't change much of anything for real New England skiers. Most of them would not be caught dead waiting in line at Mount Snow, and the NY and PA mountains might as well be Florida from their perspective.

 

The Granite pass was a bit more expensive in early season last year and as you stated only included 3 mountains versus 7 this year.  Last year's early season pricing Granite Pass would have cost our family $2,176.  This year's Peaks Pass cost us $1,457.

 

For a Boston area skier, this pass was quite appealing.  It puts two mountains under 2 hours and 2 more at the 3 hour mark.  Yes, Mt. Snow gets crowded, but it's a good option for early and late season. 

 

We bought the passes early and already put 8 days on them. Six of them at Mt. Snow and crowds were not a problem whatsoever for spring skiing.  We parked feet away from the lifts every weekend we spent there in March.

post #18 of 27
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Apparently the Peak Pass has been reasonably popular so far.  Peak Resorts said that because of this new product, pre-season sales of season passes are up 40% in units and 29% in revenues.

post #19 of 27
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They are playing some number games here. Keep in mind the early season pricing ended a month earlier this year. A portion of that increase in front loading the sales.

post #20 of 27
I am very excited about the peak pass. If we have another slow start this coming winter i know where i will be for the month of December. I was able to hit mount snow 3 times in March and April on the pass so it's already 1/3 paid for.
post #21 of 27
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They are playing some number games here. Keep in mind the early season pricing ended a month earlier this year. A portion of that increase in front loading the sales.


I would hope they are comparing to last year at the same time.  Of course, it's apples and oranges since Hunter was not part of Peak and the pricing was different.  Even so, if few people had thought the Peak Pass was worth buying at the early season price given how bad the past season was, that would've signaled a real problem.

post #22 of 27
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Don't think it makes that much difference for people considering the Peak Pass for next season, but Peak announced that there is a light at the end of the tunnel in terms of when the EB-5 funds will be released.  Part of the financial problem is that Peak spent substantial money on Mount Snow since May 2015 expecting to be re-imbursed well before now.

 

Mount Snow EB-5 Program Approved - 5/25/16

http://www.newenglandskiindustry.com/viewstory.php?storyid=440

 

Peak's share value rose at the news.

post #23 of 27
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Looks like the price went up $200 for the adult Peak passes.  Probably the price will go up again after Oct. 18 for the Ranger and Traveler options.

 

post #24 of 27
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Sounds like Peak found a way to get new money to keep things going.  One investor is willing to buy enough stock to provide about $20 million.  Already own a fair number of shares.  The investor would get annual dividends worth about $1.6 million.  Not a done deal yet.  Still subject to a shareholder vote.

 

http://www.newenglandskiindustry.com/viewstory.php?storyid=471

post #25 of 27
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If anyone is still trying to decide between the Peak Pass and the MAX Pass, there was some discussion about that by people who live in NYC:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/146692/peak-pass-vs-max-pass-comparison-for-nyc-area-skiiers

 

Apparently investors are thinking Peak is over the hump.  The stock has gone up in recent days.

post #26 of 27

Sorry for the duplicate posts, but it was suggested that I ask this here.  It's just idle, pre-season curiosity. Obviously I'll find out next month:

 

I just received my Peak pass ("Explorer" level, which is completely unlimited), One of the mountains it covers is my home hill, so it's a sweet deal. 

 

I'm curious whether I have to go to the ticket counter every time I go skiing, or do the individual resorts give me a season pass or rifd card or something so I can go direct-to-lift?

 

I didn't see anything in Peak's info about it.  I'd love to just go ski and find out, but alas, still waiting.  Wondered if anyone here knows how it works.

post #27 of 27

@Sallycat No you are good.  If you have your pass than that's all you need.  The fact that it says peak pass on it allows all 7 mountains to know you are part of the Peak Pass system.  I have a peak pass as well.   It's a great deal. 

 

Think snow!

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