Curious on how much time you spend tuning one pair of skis. Look forward to seeing the poll results.
My skis get a light tune about every 4-5 ski days. Doesn't take long at all. However, if I inherit a used pair of skis that hasn't been tuned in a long time or ever... perhaps really in need of a base grind I'll spend a good hour or so getting them flattened out then set, waxed, and scraped... longer if they need p-tex fillings..
I just finished a low end tune on two pair of sandwich construction skis. This includes sidewall blending, Sidewall planing, filing edges, stoning edges with 120 and 220 diamond only. Flash sidewalls, scrape bases with steel and stone. Waxing still not done yet.
All that took me about 4 hours for the four skis. (two pairs). If it's high end it takes much longer.
Another spread sheet on the way?
Since my ski chalet is a 5th wheel trailer, once the wax is ironed in the skis go outside to cool down and the scrapping is done outdoors, along with a buffing with a small scotch pad drum attached to a drill.
We are tuning skis here folks, not pianos.
I guess until the OP defines terms it's up to interpretation but I think it's interesting to see how we all do that interpretation.
I've always considered myself a minimalist tuner but according to the poll so far I spend more time than most.
Depends a lot on whether I'm at home or on the road..... but 90% of the time I'm on the road.
At home I'll file side edges, deburr, do a hot scrape, thoroughly iron, have lunch, scrape and a ton of brushing. Never gotten into edge polishing.
On the road I just crayon the wax, cover with fibertex, iron for a bit then brush in the parking lot the next morning. If they need more attention I'll take 'em to the shop.
I don't like to ski a fourth day on the same wax.
Depends on which skis. Race skis get 2/4/600 diamond + ceramic and I wax to conditions which sometimes means working with hard waxes that take more time to brush out. Everyday skis get less polishing and Ch7/8/10 as the default wax and a few passes with the rotobrush- good enough is good enough! I very seldom file as I do my best to keep on top of the edges.
File edges (inc. sidewall planing if needed), edge polish (up to 1000 grit), ceramic stone, hot scrape, 2 wax layers, brush.....no way I get that done in less than 30mins. Closer to 45.
I agree the definition of tune is certainly different for each of us.
Regular maintenance is the same for me, except I don't file with maintenance. Finding I tune every 3 days on snow and file every second tune. Run race skis in the course for a few days and you'll find that edge dulls pretty quick.
I figure about 45 minutes all told by the time the job is done. They get this treatment before every race day regardless of how many runs. For free skiing, really depends on what they look like but still tend to do it every 2 days.
Quick edge tune with my fine stone if there is nothing wrong with them, otherwise I'll use 3 stones, I don't ever take a file to them
Brush a bit to get the bases clean enough
This time of year when it is warm I'll hot wax and scrape for additional cleaning. When it is -20 you don't get much dirt
Wax, scrape, brush
Clean up the mess
Absolutely ! Sometimes a one beer tune and sometimes a two beer tune. I prescribe to KISS and keep it simple. If I haven't hit any rocks or trees recently I will wd40 the tops and bindings, turn the ski bottoms up,take a look, run my fingers down the edges, check the bases for any irregularities and then hit the edges with a file or diamond stone or nothing, clean bases and hot wax. Usually a one beer job.
My table and tools are set up. Take me a few minutes to pop the foot piece in the bindings, drop the ski into the vise, lube the moonflex, clamp it to the edge guide, run it up/dn the edge 4 times. Wipe the edge with old towel, flip the ski to the other edge. repeat.
Then do the other ski.
Takes about that long after every ski day.
I'll wax after 3-5 days depending on the snow conditions. That takes about 20 minutes.
I touch up the tune every ski day. Do you wax every day ?
I find that interesting too. I'm sure my perspective would change if I skied a lot of hard snow or was concerned about times in the course but as it is now this thread has shown me that I'm quite comfortable with pretty ratty edges but I really don't like dry bases.
I must be slow, almost an hour for a pair. 100, 200, 400 grit diamond stones, each have two passes (except for 100, depending on how nasty the edge is), one "pass" (which is really going over multiple times) probably lasts about 15 seconds.
I think it depends on where you ski. In the north east I could probably go without waxing for half the season and not notice. But I've never done that, so I don't know.
Skis wax should be cooled at "room" temperature. This means about no less than 60 degrees F and is generally know as 70 degrees F.
Cooling and waxing skis below this temperature is not a good idea. The wax molecules need that to properly rearrange themselves for minimal internal friction.