or Connect
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ask the Boot Guys › Takin up some space in boot?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Takin up some space in boot?

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
I'm currently in a Head Evo 90w fitted recently, while on vacation, at McSporties in Sun Peaks BC. Ive had about 7 days on the boots now. I'm finding there is a lot of room developing and I need to crank down the buckles to get the control I need. Cranking down the buckles of course causes other issues numbness, pain and I think also this searing pain I sometimes get along the bottom of my foot.

Foot anatomy: I have fairly flat feet with a wide but not tall arch. Very low instep. Med-long toes. And can hyperextended my ankle joint (and all my other joints as well). Thin, narrow foot. 93mm across at widest point. No bunions or other deformations. Thick ankle and large calf, in which my calf muscles actually run all the way down the back of my leg to the ankle. Ie cankles.

I would like to figure out how to take up some space laterally in the forefoot area and on top of the foot between ankle between instep and toes.

I'm located in an area which has no professional boot fitters, I have been recommended a couple in the past but visits have been quite disappointing. I'd like to do non-destructive fiddling with these boot to get them feeling good for the final week or so of the season.

Other adjustments for these boots the fitter tapped some pads to the outside of the liner which seems to take up some space in the boot when reinserted.

Questions: 1) where can I buy the pads needed, and which ones should I obtain?
2) does it seem reasonable to tape the pads, hemispherically to each side of the top foot, liner? Making sure to extend the pad down the sides towards the bottom of the liner?
3) I feel some room around the insep area? Any thoughts on how to take up that space?

My next ski vacation will be planned around getting professional new style boot and alignment work.
post #2 of 8

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

Read through the above article and perform a "Shell Check" to see if the boot has a chance of fitting long term.

 

When a boot seems too big with just a few days skiing, it was too big when you bought it---the liner has broken in and now won;t hold your feet.

 

The article mentions A maximum shell check to be around 15mm.

 

When you have to add padding to a liner right out of the gate, the boot was too big.   Padding will pack out and go away, so it is a short term fix

 

for a long term problem.

 

Mike

post #3 of 8

another important clue is that you bought a new boot and the fitter added padding to the outside of the liner as you were buying it. I would bet miketsc's front teeth that he is correct and you are in the wrong size boot.

 

jim

post #4 of 8
Let's leave my front teeth out of this😎

Mike
post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 
I have less than 1cm space in a shell fitting. In terms of length I think it feels good. My issue is I have a low volume foot 93mm at widest point, with a large volume ankle and calf and to get something to fit my legs and foot at the same time is difficult.
post #6 of 8

lets get some more info:

 

 

what size (circumference) calf muscle at the top of the liner?

 

Footbeds? (over the counter or custom or factory?)

 

According to Head the Evo is a 96mm last width in a 24.5, a 98 mm last in a 25.5 and a 100mm last in a 26.5 so which boot are you in.

 

mike

post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Largest calf is 16.5 inches at top of calf. Using a Red (I'm having a brain fart on the brand, but it's the brand that has green, pink and red foot beds) aftermarket (not custom) foot bed. Currently in a Head Evo 90w size 24. Boots have had forward lean reduced to restore balanced posture.
post #8 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenTomato View Post

Largest calf is 16.5 inches at top of calf. Using a Red (I'm having a brain fart on the brand, but it's the brand that has green, pink and red foot beds) aftermarket (not custom) foot bed. Currently in a Head Evo 90w size 24. Boots have had forward lean reduced to restore balanced posture.

place your boot against something vertical and measure to the liner at the top of the shell as depicted in the above pic.

 

I am curious about the amount of forward lean you now have in your boots----with your size calves you only need 23mm of forward lean to stance correctly, when measured as described above.

 

It sounds like you are moving in the right direction, my only other thought is that you should be trying to anchor the heel into the back of the boot shell.

 

The only buckle that can do this is the one around your ankles (second from top)---try tightening this one till it hurts your ankle, then back off till it is "just comfortable", this should provide the heel hold you need---never tighten the lower 2 buckles, as you have found, they can only make your feet go to sleep, not good for control, so why do it.

 

Try layering up "duck tape" along the medial and lateral borders (sides) of both sides of the liner to close in on the foot---you can layer up and taper the layering as needed, so as to provide control and comfort.  5 layers of duck tape = 1mm of thickness and it is dense, so it will not compress and the effect won't go away.  Don't push down on the top of the foot too many veins, arteries and nerves up there.

 

Good Luck

 

Mike

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ask the Boot Guys
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ask the Boot Guys › Takin up some space in boot?