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post #151 of 188
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Yep, the MCP website got updated.  So Stowe remains the only MCP destination in the east.





I'm not sure I agree with the idea of adding August partners. Had I known of these adds, I would have bought the pass with the third day. Without that knowledge, I made a different pass decision. Assuming that mountain collective is in the business of selling passes, this strategy resulted in a lose lose for both of us.
post #152 of 188
I'm loving the addition of Telluride. Will make for a great Spring road trip for us international visitors. Taos, Telluride, Aspen, Altabird (with Mammoth tacked on the end on the way home if you like). Or if a little earlier in the season drop off Mammoth and continue from SLC to Jackson and Sun Valley. Awesome.
post #153 of 188
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I'm loving the addition of Telluride. Will make for a great Spring road trip for us international visitors. Taos, Telluride, Aspen, Altabird (with Mammoth tacked on the end on the way home if you like). Or if a little earlier in the season drop off Mammoth and continue from SLC to Jackson and Sun Valley. Awesome.


Yup, skiing Telluride on the way to or from Taos is just what I was hoping for as I have yet to ski either one.

post #154 of 188
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I'm not sure I agree with the idea of adding August partners. Had I known of these adds, I would have bought the pass with the third day. Without that knowledge, I made a different pass decision. Assuming that mountain collective is in the business of selling passes, this strategy resulted in a lose lose for both of us.

Why lose-lose?  I assume you'll have a good time based on the other pass this season.  And that pass may well change by next season.  If the current MCP destinations are still of interest next March, you can go ahead and be an MCP early bird for 2017-18.

 

Taos was added last summer, long after I'd already made plans with friends that we were going to Alta and Aspen for a mid-season trip.  Wasn't going to change plans.  I started thinking about Taos for this season well before March 2016.

post #155 of 188
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I'm loving the addition of Telluride. Will make for a great Spring road trip for us international visitors. Taos, Telluride, Aspen, Altabird (with Mammoth tacked on the end on the way home if you like). Or if a little earlier in the season drop off Mammoth and continue from SLC to Jackson and Sun Valley. Awesome.


I have no doubt that international visitors are of great interest to the MCP resorts.  Just as Vail wants Whistler-Blackcomb because a lot of people fly there from Asia and Australia/NZ.

post #156 of 188
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I have no doubt that international visitors are of great interest to the MCP resorts.  Just as Vail wants Whistler-Blackcomb because a lot of people fly there from Asia and Australia/NZ.


Yep. Whistler was a loss for the likes of my family. We had a great time there a few times. The only downside was there was no nearby hill to compliment it with - we drove across BC to ski at Sunshine/Lake Louise. Revelstoke is great if only Whistler was still included (in future years).

Now, regardless of the exchange rate, it makes sense for Aussie's and Kiwi's to fly into LA - there are so many resorts relatively close by and many attractions 'in between' them (Vegas, Zion, Arches, Yellowstone, SLC etc) to break up a road trip.

post #157 of 188
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Why lose-lose?  I assume you'll have a good time based on the other pass this season.  And that pass may well change by next season.  If the current MCP destinations are still of interest next March, you can go ahead and be an MCP early bird for 2017-18.

Taos was added last summer, long after I'd already made plans with friends that we were going to Alta and Aspen for a mid-season trip.  Wasn't going to change plans.  I started thinking about Taos for this season well before March 2016.

MCP lost a sale.

In economic terms, I ended up with a product that didn't maximize the utility for the dollar invested solely due to lack of complete information.

Whether or not MCP intentionally withheld information, isn't something we know for sure...but if they did it for strategic reasons, then we both lost.
post #158 of 188
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MCP lost a sale.

In economic terms, I ended up with a product that didn't maximize the utility for the dollar invested solely due to lack of complete information.

Whether or not MCP intentionally withheld information, isn't something we know for sure...but if they did it for strategic reasons, then we both lost.

 

You would feel less of a lose-lose had MCP not add Telluride and Revelstoke in 16/17 season, but wait till 17/18 season? 

post #159 of 188
Guess I wouldn't worry too much myself over the loss of a bonus 3rd day or not knowing I'd advance which resorts would be added. The third day bonus is there to entice people to purchase early, probably before they even know what other resorts might be added. The fact that they add other resorts after the first wave of sales is an extra extra bonus. Even at the current price of $409, and without the bonus 3rd day at a specified resort, the MCP is a great deal this year in particular, since Whistler/Blackcomb is still included and Revelstoke and Telluride are added.

Of course, these are all first-world issues, and not everyone has the luxury of time and money to travel to more than one region. So, speaking for myself, I could see making a W/B, Revelstoke and Banff trip because of this year's MCP arrangements, or a Sun Valley, Jackson and SLC road trip, with another excursion to W/B.

That said, I have an Edge Card for 16-17, which I plan to use at W/B early season for a few days in addition to the Gathering. If I hadn't, or if I had my heart set on visiting other resorts this year I probably would have bought the MCP.

The only way I would feel that I had missed out is if I bought nothing ahead of time and had to pay walk-up ticket prices.
post #160 of 188
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Why lose-lose?  I assume you'll have a good time based on the other pass this season.  And that pass may well change by next season.  If the current MCP destinations are still of interest next March, you can go ahead and be an MCP early bird for 2017-18.

Taos was added last summer, long after I'd already made plans with friends that we were going to Alta and Aspen for a mid-season trip.  Wasn't going to change plans.  I started thinking about Taos for this season well before March 2016.

MCP lost a sale.

In economic terms, I ended up with a product that didn't maximize the utility for the dollar invested solely due to lack of complete information.

Whether or not MCP intentionally withheld information, isn't something we know for sure...but if they did it for strategic reasons, then we both lost.


Guess I can understand.  For you, Telluride is within driving distance.  I assume you might have felt differently if the additions had been Revelstoke and some place in the northeast.

 

In the early years, it seemed possible that agreements with new ski resorts weren't sorted out until some time in the summer.  Harder to say now.  But wouldn't surprise me if the negotiations don't happen until after all the current MCP destinations are completely done with the winter season.

post #161 of 188

@marznc Yep - you hit it exactly.  I was looking to diversify and add additional driving trips to my Winter storm chasing or even planned trips.  Its much easier to convince an intermediate ski friend to take a driving trip rather than hop in a plane.   And @KingGrump has me thoroughly sold that Taos is a great place for intermediates...especially during Texan week.  

 

Taos and Telluride are both ~8 hours from Phoenix.  Telluride specifically is popular enough that there will be multiple bus trips organized there by the local ski clubs.

 

The next batch are ~11 hours

Aspen, SLC, Mammoth.  The first two are almost guaranteed to be flights.  Mammoth I've always forecasted as a late/spring season last hurrah.  I had plans to make the drive this past year but I crashed my vehicle the week of the planned trip.  

 

@at_nyc @DesiredUsername you're right I'm probably over dramatizing it.  It is probably net net an incremental $75 dollar extra cost (factoring in 10+%50 of 130).  
 

The alternative is recently added young adult pass and all the exchange days.  http://arizonasnowbowl.com/?q=seasonpass 
 

I've historically only skied 3-4x at AZsnowbowl per year (courtesy of my good pal Warren Miller).  But next year I'll have a cousin at NAU with a sofa along with the new 6pack will alleviate the obnoxious lines on powder days, or weekend after storms.  So its very conceivable that I'll end up there much more this year.  

 

Too many mountains...too much work.  

post #162 of 188
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Getting towards the end of the $409 price.  Based on last year, should last through the end of Sept.

 

post #163 of 188
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Hmm, folks who want a Taos season pass can get 50% discounts at MCP destinations for either the full pass or the value pass.

 

 

post #164 of 188
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The status bar is in NEARLY SOLD OUT as of 9/25/16.  So the $409 price could end by late Sept.

post #165 of 188
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As expected, price has gone up to $419.

 

post #166 of 188
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Something new at a few MCP locations . . . can get a pass by mail beforehand in order to avoid going to Customer Service on the first ski day.  That would definitely have come in handy last season for the Aspen Gathering.

 

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In order to make the Mountain Collective pass easier to use, we have launched a pilot program this season which will allow you to receive your individual mountain passes at select resorts through the mail before your trip.

 

No more waiting in lines, no more filling out paperwork at the resort - simply show up with your pass in hand and get on the lift - what could be easier than that?

 

Pre-Arrival fulfillment is available at the following resorts this season:

 

Aspen Snowmass
Jackson Hole
Squaw Valley/Alpine Meadows
Stowe
Telluride
Whistler Blackcomb

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post #167 of 188

I not surprised to see Mammoth and Snowbird missing from that pre-arrival fulfillment list.  Both are noted for lagging IT departments in dealing with MCP.

post #168 of 188

Has anybody got their MCP passes early in the mail yet?  I haven't tried to get into it yet - is it easy?  I recall having my Epic pass last year take forever because I didn't have a properly formatted picture to them.

 

Just got the email from Epic that has Whistler?Blackcomb on their 16/17 pass list.  I thought that wasn't going to happen for another year.  So W/B is both Collective and Epic at the same time?!?

post #169 of 188
Mountain Collective does not send you a pass. Take your email purchase confirmation to the ski area or follow instruction two posts above yours.

Answer to your last question is Yes. You get 5 restricted days at WB with Epic or Epic Local passes.
post #170 of 188
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Has anybody got their MCP passes early in the mail yet?  I haven't tried to get into it yet - is it easy?  I recall having my Epic pass last year take forever because I didn't have a properly formatted picture to them.

 

Just got the email from Epic that has Whistler?Blackcomb on their 16/17 pass list.  I thought that wasn't going to happen for another year.  So W/B is both Collective and Epic at the same time?!?


MCP just announced the idea of getting a specific pass on 10/19 for the short list of places in Post #166.  Hopefully someone going to the Whistler Gathering will give the new service a try and report back how the process went.

post #171 of 188
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MCP just announced the idea of getting a specific pass on 10/19 for the short list of places in Post #166.  Hopefully someone going to the Whistler Gathering will give the new service a try and report back how the process went.

 

I'm going to be sending my application in sometime soon. I'll report if someone doesn't beat me to it.

post #172 of 188

I just signed up for the pre-arrival fulfillment passes. I'll let you all know how the process goes. So far I had to reset my password and upload a photo. I'm waiting for emails directing me to fill out liability forms from the resorts.

post #173 of 188
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I just signed up for the pre-arrival fulfillment passes. I'll let you all know how the process goes. So far I had to reset my password and upload a photo. I'm waiting for emails directing me to fill out liability forms from the resorts.


Update:

I already received confirmation from Mountain Collective that my pass request has been accepted. (Same day in just a few short hours.)

They contacted all 6 resorts. The first to contact me by email was Telluride. I needed to set up an account with Telluride as well as fill out an online liability waiver. This process only took a few minutes. They have already sent me a confirmation email. I'll update again when I receive my pass in the mail.

post #174 of 188

Updates:

I received my Telluride pass in the mail today. Yes!

I also received an email from Aspen Snowmass today and I they told me that my pass is already on its way in the mail. When I skied there three years I signed a liability form which apparently is good until November 1, 2020. Pretty cool.

(I'm still waiting to hear back from Jackson Hole, Squaw/Alpine, Stowe, and Whistler Blackcomb.)

post #175 of 188

Received my pass to Aspen and Squaw already. Got notification that my Whistler pass was mailed out. Still waiting to hear from Jackson Hole, Stowe and Alta

post #176 of 188
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Received my pass to Aspen and Squaw already. Got notification that my Whistler pass was mailed out. Still waiting to hear from Jackson Hole, Stowe and Alta

Planning to ski all 6? Sounds like a great season ahead for you!
post #177 of 188
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Planning to ski all 6? Sounds like a great season ahead for you!


Hope to hit 8 this year. Got MC two years ago, but snow was terrible so only skied Whistler and Aspen.

post #178 of 188

Update:

My Aspen Snowmass pass arrived in the mail today.

(I'm still waiting to hear back from Jackson Hole, Squaw/Alpine, Stowe, and Whistler Blackcomb.)

post #179 of 188

Update:

I just heard back from Whistler Blackcomb. I needed to login, update my account, sign a waiver and upload a pass photo.

I first tried to go through the process using the Safari browser and it hung up on the third step of the process. When I switched over to Google Chrome everything went through smoothly. 

I post another update when I receive my pass.

(I'm still waiting to hear back from Jackson Hole, Squaw/Alpine, and Stowe.)

post #180 of 188
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post
 

I not surprised to see Mammoth and Snowbird missing from that pre-arrival fulfillment list.  Both are noted for lagging IT departments in dealing with MCP.


This might relate to their IT departments. After hearing horror stories about the process at Snowbird I decided to go over at Alta to get my pass each of the past seasons. Alta's MCP desk area might be relatively small, but they seem to know what they are doing.

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