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new park skier, want to carve aswell... ski choice?

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Hi, I'm only 17 years old and have skied every year with my family, I'm a pretty good skier so this year I want to try some park tricks for something different. I still want to be able to ski normally for parts of my week with my family. However I read that twin tips ski's perform bad on normal slopes carving. I always rent my ski's so i now have the choice to rent park ski's or rent carving ski's. What would you suggest me to do? Would it hurt trying basic park tricks (180's, 360's and box/rail slides) on normal carving ski's? Or would it hurt less doing normal carving with freestyle ski's?


thanks in advance!

post #2 of 5

I'd recommend trying a lighter weight all mountain twin mounted flat and closer to center, +2?... Or a park/pipe ski not quite center mounted, back a little -2?  Either one will give you most of what you're looking for depending on which you rank higher, freestyle or carving?

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Before I delve into which would be better for you, I should clarify something. The world of skis are not broken up into park skis and carvers. Most skis on the market these days are termed "all-mountain". This term can mean a lot of things, going all the way from something just a step away from a race-style carving ski, all the way to something that is nearly a powder ski, but toned down a bit. Some of them are twin tips. Some aren't. Some are light, some are heavy. Some are stiff, some are soft. There are a lot of options available to you, not just a park specific ski or a carving ski. 


Second, its important for us to know where you're skiing. If you're skiing at a little hill in the Midwest, we're probably going to recommend a ski that performs better in hard snow. If you're skiing in Colorado, we'll probably recommend a wider, softer ski. 


Finally, a park ski can still carve. Just because you are on a twin tip doesn't mean you would be unable to lay down an arc if you wanted to. To wit:


That's me on a pair of 99-underfoot, twin tipped park/all mountain skis. I'm skiing them arc-to-arc carved. 


The hang up becomes when a park ski will carve. Ice? Not happening. Hardpack? If you're good, you can make it happen, but it's harder to do. Soft snow? Yup, you can arc a park ski in soft snow all day long. 


On the flip side, you'll find a carving ski very poorly adapted to working in the park. A carving ski is going to make for difficult takeoffs, rough landings, and they're not going to like rails and boxes much at all. A well tuned carving ski's edge is going to catch on a box. 


I'd lean toward an all-mountain type ski with a twin tip. Best bet for splitting the difference. 

post #4 of 5

Welcome to park skiing and welcome to EpicSki!


First of all I'd like to mention it's generally not a good idea to slide rails and boxes on rental skis.  Even if you get the "damage waiver", in my experience for most rental shops the damage waiver only covers "repairable damage".  In the eyes of a rental shop, a cracked edge or blown sidewall certainly doesn't fall under the "repairable" category.  If you still plan to hit rails and boxes on rental skis, be EXTREMELY careful, and I would say it would be a good idea to ask the rental shop if that's okay before you do it.  You don't want to be stuck with a bill for $800 replacement skis (rental shops will charge full MSRP if they require you to replace a ski).


That being said, there are a lot of skis out there that will perform well in the park, but will still ski the rest of the mountain really well.  Depending on how wide you think you want to go, here are some skis to consider:


2016 Volkl Revolt

2016 Dynastar Distorter (will be up on our site tomorrow)

2016 Blizzard Regulator 

Atomic Alibi


There are a lot of others out there, but those just came to mind off the top of my head.  Really anything in the 80-95mm underfoot category with a vertical or semi-vertical sidewall is going to ski really well all mountain.

post #5 of 5

Welcome to the forum.


You say you rent skis, do you rent boots too ?


At your age, still growing, it may be hard to spend the money to buy boots if your feet haven't finished growing. But we all say boots are the most important part.


If your going to rent skis and boots for the next few years, find a shop that does a seasonal rental program and see if you can change skis from time to time. But I think you'll be fine on twin tips.



May be take a lesson next time you rent a twin tip ski, ski schools have instructors that can teach you the proper way to enjoy the park.

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