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6yo in 3-6 or 6-12?

post #1 of 16
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Hi all,

I'm debating whether to put my 6yo (recently turned 6) in to a 3-6 camp thats 2 hours or 6-12 thats full day at Sunshine Village in Banff.

 

She skis Vermont greens and easy blues comfortably, just slow but sure footed on steeper patches.  She is wedging mostly but starting stem turns.  She cannot get on the chair by herself yet.  Some more info:  Usually when she skis with us, we might do 2 runs, like blue to green that's 2 miles long, 15 min each run with her and then take a break.   

 

The concern is the 3-6 is not challenging for her, but the 6-12 is too challenging and long...  

 

Advice is appreciated.

 

Thanks.

post #2 of 16
If you go with the 6-12 and it is too difficult or not a fit can they place her into the other group?

You should know your daughter so if she is a strong skier and is able to keep up with the older kids at home ski area great. If not then let her have fun for a couple hours and free ski with rest of the day. I suspect if she is wedging the turns she isn't a strong skier and would be best to stick with younger group until she can perfect her parallel turns. My background is teaching my 7 year old and 4 year old daughters.
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If you go with the 6-12 and it is too difficult or not a fit can they place her into the other group?

You should know your daughter so if she is a strong skier and is able to keep up with the older kids at home ski area great. If not then let her have fun for a couple hours and free ski with rest of the day. I suspect if she is wedging the turns she isn't a strong skier and would be best to stick with younger group until she can perfect her parallel turns. My background is teaching my 7 year old and 4 year old daughters.

 

the group class I am looking at is paid in advance.  I would think they will put her into the appropriate skill group and move her down if she can't keep up.  I would think she would end up on the bunny hill if her endurance is an issue?

 

She can do greens and blues but I'm not going to over play it, she's skiing most of it slowly and flat running her skis into a wedge 80% of the time.  

post #4 of 16
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This is her first or 2nd day of the season on a slushy/icy blue at Sugarloaf ME.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYCFa7uywfg&feature=youtu.be

 

Problem is she only had about 3 days since then in Dec. This is by no means a good highlight video but I think it's a honest view of her current ability.   

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Hi all,

I'm debating whether to put my 6yo (recently turned 6) in to a 3-6 camp thats 2 hours or 6-12 thats full day at Sunshine Village in Banff.

 

She skis Vermont greens and easy blues comfortably, just slow but sure footed on steeper patches.  She is wedging mostly but starting stem turns.  She cannot get on the chair by herself yet.  Some more info:  Usually when she skis with us, we might do 2 runs, like blue to green that's 2 miles long, 15 min each run with her and then take a break.   

 

The concern is the 3-6 is not challenging for her, but the 6-12 is too challenging and long...  

 

Advice is appreciated.

 

Thanks.


Is this her first experience out west?  Is she is Kindergarten or first grade?

 

I first took my daughter out west for a spring break trip when she was 7 and skiing blacks in the southeast, probably equivalent to easy blues at a smaller VT ski area like Pico.  I think if I'd taken her a year before, I would've stuck with a half-day program.  At least for the first day.  My daughter was very social and fully enjoyed full day (9:30-2:00) ski school at our home hill, even at age 4 and 5.  That program was essentially three 45-min lessons with a snack break and lunch in between.

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Is this her first experience out west?  Is she is Kindergarten or first grade?

 

I first took my daughter out west for a spring break trip when she was 7 and skiing blacks in the southeast, probably equivalent to easy blues at a smaller VT ski area like Pico.  I think if I'd taken her a year before, I would've stuck with a half-day program.  At least for the first day.  My daughter was very social and fully enjoyed full day (9:30-2:00) ski school at our home hill, even at age 4 and 5.  That program was essentially three 45-min lessons with a snack break and lunch in between.

kindergarten and yes first trip out west.  She normally skis Vermont area.  She has done several full day 3-6yo programs but she was 4 and 5.  And like you said they are like 45 min of ski  1 hour break.  I'm thinking the 6-12 age group won't be a skills issue (They will put here with total beginners if needed) but an endurance issue.  

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Keep in mind that for the first day at least there will also be some altitude adjustment needed.  Seems like the shorter program makes better sense to start with.  I wonder how hard it is to get into the 6-12 program without advanced reservations?  Might be worth a phone call or email to see what the ski school says.

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I would think my kid will not even be close to the most advanced in a 3-6 age group at Banff.  Maybe the 2 hour half day program is a safer bet but we wanted for her to try a full day program.  I guess I should call them and see what the day's agenda is like.  thanks all for your input.

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I would think my kid will not even be close to the most advanced in a 3-6 age group at Banff.  Maybe the 2 hour half day program is a safer bet but we wanted for her to try a full day program.  I guess I should call them and see what the day's agenda is like.  thanks all for your input.


Be interested to hear what you find out.  I completely understand hoping that full-day ski school works out.  Not only do kids often learn more, parents can have a bit more ski time off the easy slopes. :)

 

One of the nice features of the Alta Ski School, which is where I took my daughter for spring break trips, is that no reservations are taken.  There are enough instructors for whoever shows up.  So it's easier for parents to make last minute decisions of whether to do morning, afternoon, or full-day based on weather and how their young kid is feeling on a given day.

post #10 of 16
Hi there! Sunshine is my home mountain, and I ski there with my 6 and 8 year old. They have done the 3 day ski school in March (last year) and the weekly lessons this year. There's usually a whole lot of kids, so there will be almost every skill level available. My 6 year old is in the 6-12 lessons this year. She's skiing greens and some blues. There's lots of kids, so they'll have them split up by skill level. Doesn't matter if they're a never-ever or skiing blacks, there will be a group for them. They ski lots, but they're careful to give them breaks as well to keep the day fun.

My 6yo is pretty tuckered out at the end of the day, but I think she'd be bored with the little kids. She's with a super social group of kids her age and making friends. Go for the older group if at all possible. The instructors we've had have all been great - they have fun and play a lot of games as well as ski. My 8 year old only talks about building snow forts, playing hide and seek, and playing with the other kids... Yet somehow, he's learned some nice parallel turns and a smooth pole plant!

The things that we found helped make full day lessons go smoothly:

1. Sleep and hydration. The elevation can wipe you out, even more when you're only 40 pounds.
2. Take the gondola down instead of skiing out at the end of the day. Kids always want to do the ski out, but it's long and tiring and insanely crowded in the afternoon (ski out is a 5km green run all the way down to the parking lot)
3. Pocket chocolate. I put a bunch of small chocolates in the kids pockets each morning, and they eat them during the lessons whenever they're feeling tired or grumpy.

Pm me if you have other questions - I'm happy to help out with any info. I'll also be up once or twice that week with my kids, so let me know what your plans are!
post #11 of 16
The other thing I did when my 6yo moved up to full days - I also leave my cel number in her ski jacket pocket & let the instructor know that, if she seems exhausted or too tired to keep going, they can text me & I can come get her early. Hasn't happened yet, although she has fallen asleep on the gondola down on one memorable occasion biggrin.gif
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great info Hammie, thanks!  I'm going to call them but I agree with your thoughts about the 6 being in the older group.  I don't want to push her too much but trying to keep up with older kids really motivates her.  

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The other thing I did when my 6yo moved up to full days - I also leave my cel number in her ski jacket pocket & let the instructor know that, if she seems exhausted or too tired to keep going, they can text me & I can come get her early. Hasn't happened yet, although she has fallen asleep on the gondola down on one memorable occasion biggrin.gif

 

hah yea.  And good idea with the cell phone number.  

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great info Hammie, thanks!  I'm going to call them but I agree with your thoughts about the 6 being in the older group.  I don't want to push her too much but trying to keep up with older kids really motivates her.  
Chances are she'll be with kids 6-7 years old. They make a real effort to keep the ages within the group close. I also find that socially, the 4 and 5 year olds aren't as much fun for a 6 year old - they seem so much younger!
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Chances are she'll be with kids 6-7 years old. They make a real effort to keep the ages within the group close. I also find that socially, the 4 and 5 year olds aren't as much fun for a 6 year old - they seem so much younger!

 

Yea from 4-5 to 6-7 is so different mentally and physiologically!  Still though, for skiing, I know it comes down to skill not age.  I'm hoping the holiday weekend and low rates will mean there's lots of kids and a very tight range of kids in her group.  She's been in some programs though where it varied so much like 4yo with 8yo and very different skill sets and energy levels.  Massive group of like 10-12 kids with 2 instructors just making trains of kids.  I hope this 3 day camp at Bannf isn't going to be like that.  We usually stop check them out 1-2 times a day though to make sure she's ok.   

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Yea from 4-5 to 6-7 is so different mentally and physiologically!  Still though, for skiing, I know it comes down to skill not age.  I'm hoping the holiday weekend and low rates will mean there's lots of kids and a very tight range of kids in her group.  She's been in some programs though where it varied so much like 4yo with 8yo and very different skill sets and energy levels.  Massive group of like 10-12 kids with 2 instructors just making trains of kids.  I hope this 3 day camp at Bannf isn't going to be like that.  We usually stop check them out 1-2 times a day though to make sure she's ok.   
For the little kids, it's usually no more than 5 or 6 kids per group. They will almost certainly spending most of their time on the Strawberry chair to start, so you can make sure to see them in action and check out how she's doing through the day. I would bet there will be tons of kids and very tight groups - for the saturday lessons my 2 are doing, they have 5 groups of green/blue skiers between ages 6 and 8 alone, and they have the same again on Sunday. No more than 5 in a group, and my 6 yo is in a group with 4 other 6 year olds. They take them all up for a run on the first morning and redo the groups if needed to keep the abilities matched. Erica, who manages the ski school, is always there in person to make sure everyone is taken care of.

I suspect your daughter will have a great time. My final advice would be to pick up a bunch of granola bars or something similar and feed her both ways on the gondola (roughly 20 minute ride). My kids sometimes have trouble eating enough at lunch because they're so excited about skiing and then they go from smiling to crying in 10 seconds as their blood sugar falls.
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