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2016 Line Sir Francis Bacon VS. Faction Candide 3.0

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Thread Starter 

I'm looking for a new one quiver ski for mostly West skiing. I live in the South now but still get out west between 10 and 20 days per season. I've owned SFB's in the past and loved them. I do know that the new '16 Bacons were slightly redesigned but I still feel like I know the ski. 

I'm curious if anyone has any experience on the new Faction Candide 3.0?

It seems like a similar playful all-mountain ski that will allow me to ride the whole mountain and pow. 

My past with the Bacons tell me to just buy the new ones but these Factions look as though they deserve some looking into. 

I have a dealer here in FL who has new Bacons so I have been able to look at them but with no Faction dealer nearby I haven't been able to get them in my hands

post #2 of 8
Thread Starter 

I consider myself an upper intermediate to lower advanced skier (~20 years experience).

Average fitness level slender build 6'3" tall 165 

I enjoy mostly riding the sides of runs, through trees and the slackcountry. Airing off any little lip or kickers and then occasionally pointing them downhill. I'll hit the smaller park obstacles if I happen to come upon them

post #3 of 8
Go with what you know or demo. I demoed a pair of Faction Prodigys a few years back but found them too soft.

Avoid buying blind.
post #4 of 8

Curious to hear about the new Bacon's too, specifically if they are still the surfy super fun soft snow ski that stole my heart and how they handle deeper snow in comparison to the 108 version. Also interested in hearing about Candide 3.0's.

 

I'd love to demo some but nobody demo's or sells anything good anywhere near me.

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I live on the East Coast and own a pair of 2016 SFB's. They're super light, I'm a big guy at 6' 220, I turn them right over on groomers and also float like a pontoon in soft snow. They aren't too soft, however if you're doing Mach 5 on them it's a little hard to stay straight. For a big soft snow ski I'm super surprised how they handle groomers. I could easily call them a one ski quiver. The added waist is a nice plus for added stability underfoot.

As far as anyone wondering about ice here on the east coast with 100+ waist, I say "just keep em straight."

As far as listening to people on what ski to buy, go with what you know and what you want. I've made numerous investments in skis just because I was told a ski was great and sold them after that season because they just weren't for me. Like I said, I'm gonna bacons pretty much all the time here on the ice coast just because they feel comfortable to me. Who cares about the "those are powder skis" lines, in my mind they're whatever I feel like making them be.


Btbam:

The Bacons do in fact still have that super fun surfy feeling. They've cut out a ton of weight from the ski as well and they still ski stiffer than prior models.
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Originally Posted by adkfebo View Post

I live on the East Coast and own a pair of 2016 SFB's. They're super light, I'm a big guy at 6' 220, I turn them right over on groomers and also float like a pontoon in soft snow. They aren't too soft, however if you're doing Mach 5 on them it's a little hard to stay straight. For a big soft snow ski I'm super surprised how they handle groomers. I could easily call them a one ski quiver. The added waist is a nice plus for added stability underfoot.

As far as anyone wondering about ice here on the east coast with 100+ waist, I say "just keep em straight."

As far as listening to people on what ski to buy, go with what you know and what you want. I've made numerous investments in skis just because I was told a ski was great and sold them after that season because they just weren't for me. Like I said, I'm gonna bacons pretty much all the time here on the ice coast just because they feel comfortable to me. Who cares about the "those are powder skis" lines, in my mind they're whatever I feel like making them be.


Btbam:

The Bacons do in fact still have that super fun surfy feeling. They've cut out a ton of weight from the ski as well and they still ski stiffer than prior models.


Thx for the info. I just sold my 2013 bacon's which was shockingly hard to do, I'm really curious as to the deep snow performance more than anything of the 2014's. The 108 style Bacon's were extremely hooky at any sort of speed in deep snow due to the soft tips and tails, it was the one thing I really disliked about them. Hoping the stiffer tips and tails of the 2016's solved the problem, curious to hear if you've been on them in deep stuff and noticed any issues.

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Originally Posted by btbam View Post


Thx for the info. I just sold my 2013 bacon's which was shockingly hard to do, I'm really curious as to the deep snow performance more than anything of the 2014's. The 108 style Bacon's were extremely hooky at any sort of speed in deep snow due to the soft tips and tails, it was the one thing I really disliked about them. Hoping the stiffer tips and tails of the 2016's solved the problem, curious to hear if you've been on them in deep stuff and noticed any issues.

Sorry I can't help you with that question, we didn't exactly have the greatest winter hear if you hadn't heard. I didn't see a day with over 4" of new snow. It's been a really disappointing year. Shout out to the snowmakers this season though!
post #8 of 8

bump......

 

Candide 3.0 are on my radar for next year . anyone riding them this season??

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