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Squaw Valley is the Best Ski area in North America!!!

post #1 of 18
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Says people who read USA today (ie people stuck in airports and hotel lobbies)

Without arguing the merits of any particular resort (or argue--I don't care)--does not the list seem a trifle weird.

http://www.sierrasun.com/news/20692716-113/squaw-valley-named-best-north-american-ski-resort


Edited by oldgoat - 2/27/17 at 9:00pm
post #2 of 18
I saw that survey. They only gave you twenty to pick from as I recall. Then they took the top ten? Seems a bit lacking in validity.
post #3 of 18

OK, so I'm guessing that the "Panel of pro skiers and snowboarders" voted unanimously for Squaw and the magazine readers voted for the other resorts.

 

Also, Bend Oregon likely has a lot of USA Today readers.

post #4 of 18
Hooray for Squaw no matter how the results were generated! And Squaw IS a big fun mountain. Let's all enjoy that USA Today is talking about skiing.

Eric
post #5 of 18

History of Squaw vid - lotta cool pix and footage.

 

 

post #6 of 18

That's a fancy advertisement.

post #7 of 18

Is that when and if you can get there?  And if you do where will you park in the future?  Based on the stuff I'm hearing from friends and family and on another site it seems that the I70 shit show pales in comparison.

post #8 of 18
Isn't this advertisg style survey the thing you don't want your home mountain to win?
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post
 

OK, so I'm guessing that the "Panel of pro skiers and snowboarders" voted unanimously for Squaw and the magazine readers voted for the other resorts.

 

Also, Bend Oregon likely has a lot of USA Today readers.

Bend is really gaining in popularity.

post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
 

Says people who read USA today (ie people stuck in airports and hotel lobbies)

Without arguing the merits of any particular resort (or argue--I don't care)--does not the list seem a trifle wierd.

http://www.sierrasun.com/news/20692716-113/squaw-valley-named-best-north-american-ski-resort


Fake news. Fake poll .

post #11 of 18
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Fake news. Fake poll .

 

Actually, I'd say not news at all - opinion or fluff instead. And poorly designed, unscientific, just for fun poll.

post #12 of 18

What's the deal with driving over the pass (passes?). I've never been there but I had a buddy living in Sac who said that they stop you at the bottom of 50 and make you chain up if it's snowing. My concern is that I'll be coming from San Fran and will have a rental car to get to Squaw. I'll look at the weather forecast and rent a 4 wheel drive if necessary, but I obviously won't have chains for the rental. 

 

My buddy is going to meet me at Squaw. If the weather is crappy, is it better for him to fly into Reno and not have to go over a pass than it would be him to fly into Sac and drive over from the West? Note: I have no idea if you go over a pass when traveling from Reno to Squaw. Can you tell I haven't really started researching this trip, yet? 

post #13 of 18

This link will tell you where chain control is in effect

http://quickmap.dot.ca.gov/

 

 

This link explains the requirements:

 

http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/trucks/chains.html

 

Note the following:

 

Most A/S tires, marked M & S, count as snow tires

 

Even with AWD and snow tires, you are still supposed to carry chains in a chain control area

 

Some tire dealers, such as Les Schwab, will sell you a set of chains then allow return for a full refund if unused,

 

Use chains on a rental at your own risk. They will ding you bad for any damage. Don't know if it is in the contract or not.

post #14 of 18
I really like Squaw and the whole north shore.
But they need to figure a way to get people out of thier cars.
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by Bill Miles View Post
 

This link will tell you where chain control is in effect

http://quickmap.dot.ca.gov/

 

 

This link explains the requirements:

 

http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/trucks/chains.html

 

Note the following:

 

Most A/S tires, marked M & S, count as snow tires

 

Even with AWD and snow tires, you are still supposed to carry chains in a chain control area

 

Some tire dealers, such as Les Schwab, will sell you a set of chains then allow return for a full refund if unused,

 

Use chains on a rental at your own risk. They will ding you bad for any damage. Don't know if it is in the contract or not.

 

I can't speak for les schwab, but it is  customary at all CA parts stores there are no refunds on chains, even if unused.   So you better call before making a special trip specificially to there.  If you wish to use a store as a lending library, you have to go with something outside the box, like ordering from amazon.  

 

For your rental, if you get an AWD, check the tires before you leave the lot, make sure they look got enough tread on it.  I suggest you do not use the cheapest car rental you find on expedia to reserve your car, as there is a higher chance they may screw it up.

 

Check weather before hand, if there is even a couple inches of snow forecast especially with lower snow levels, you will most likely need chains or AWD/4WD.  For 50/80 yes the law is the law, but these are the main freeways, so caltrans will usually close it before going R3 because people are stupid.  If your vehicle looks more SUV like, or if it's a subaru, it's super unlikely that they will ask to see your chains and just wave you through (as compared to say AWD in a car where they may ask) 

Anyway, if you get cheap chains it'll cost you less than $50, so just consider that a small cost of doing business.  Depending on the chain design, get the optional rubber tensioners too and they won't flail and damage the vehicle.

 

If it looks like it's going to be so bad and a blizzard where you're going to need awd and chains, perhaps you stay around sacramento and book a room at a motel6 or similar cheap place something until it passes.  The resort is unlikely to open anyway.  

 

If your buddy has a choice, he should fly to reno, and he can take a shuttle into squaw if he wants to save money, if he's shut out, at least he can have a bit more fun in reno and make a little trouble there versus sacramento.   It's hard to suggest as it depends on your itinerary and lodging. 

 

Anyhoo, maybe it'll just be completely sunny so all this is planning for nothing.


Edited by raytseng - 2/27/17 at 9:21pm
post #16 of 18
Thread Starter 

Definitely fly into Reno

post #17 of 18

Final thoughts,

 

if you don't want to look like a noob, when you get to the checkpoint just put up 4 fingers and wave to the checker if you have 4wd/awd instead of rolling down your window.


if you are chaining up, do not stop when you first see traffic coming to a crawl and people pulling over and chaining up, esp if your car is still driving fine and there's not that much snow on the ground.  

People always panic too early and end put on chains even though there is space to park further ahead (usually in a nicer,  lighted, and flatter area).

The panic of chain control leads to a slinky effect of chainer-uppers doing it sooner and sooner, even down into 1lane areas where they are putting chains on in lanes; and I've even seen people put on chains even though chain control has already been taken down just because they panic and see others doing it and that guy did it because he saw someone else do it and so on and so on.  

Keep drivng until you physically see the signs saying chain up now and even up until you see the chain check trailer (on 50/80; other smaller routes may not have checks pay attention to signs).  

 

They always setup a chain check in a spot with extra lanes, and there has always been extra space right at the chain check.  

post #18 of 18
I wonder how much Andy Wirth n crew paid for that puff piece

They don't run lifts when it blows or snows
Fill all parking by 9:00 am

And if you criticize them, they will yank your pass

So this survey must have been conducted last season
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