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Snow then rain repeatedly

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Conditions this year in Quebec seem to be a snow storm followed by rain / freezing rain the next day turning things slushy then back to freezing and icy again.
Any recommendations for a good ski type in this (wider, more rocker, etc.)? Bizarre weather
post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post

wider, more rocker, etc.

Opposite works for me, 67mm full camber.
post #3 of 21

Yeah, for ice skinnier the better and no rocker.

post #4 of 21
I skied these conditions a lot at mont Sainte Anne a couple of weeks ago. Agree with jzmtl on a stiff, skinny slalom ski. Off piste is no fun when you lose some fillings on every bump. If enough snow blows into the trees, the skis are fine there.
post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 
It's not so much the ice as a top layer of crust, some soft underneath. Guess it hardens up a few days later
post #6 of 21

Breakable crust is probably the trickiest snow condition to ski in. It's difficult no matter what equipment you're on. 

post #7 of 21

Yup!   This winter sucks!   I have been skiing here (Québec) for over 40 years and this is the worst winter that I can remember, as far as skiing conditions go.

post #8 of 21

This is, by the numbers, the worst winter in the history of Eastern skiing. 

post #9 of 21
Killington last week the day after the rain = Ice skating.
Other days were fine as long as the Sun was out early in the morning - by 2 pm back to ice.

But that day after the rain it was very hard to ski.

The guy at the rental area even told us why you skiing here today? :-)
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by Green Hat View Post

Killington last week the day after the rain = Ice skating.
Other days were fine as long as the Sun was out early in the morning - by 2 pm back to ice.

But that day after the rain it was very hard to ski.

The guy at the rental area even told us why you skiing here today? :-)

You should have gone to Okemo. Friends who skied during the week, said Wednesday was fine after Tuesdays rain, Thursday was a little firm after the freeze. I skied Fri. to Sun and had a great weekend.

post #11 of 21

Okemo was probably fine cuz it was still 35-40 degrees and soft esp in the sun.  Must be fun looking at leaves in the woods???

post #12 of 21
I had booked the trip to Killington way in advance. It is hit or miss I guess. From late week until weekend conditions improved a lot actually. I feel Friday and Saturday were the best days!

The mountain was not crowded at all. No long lines anywhere.
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by ddsski View Post
 

Okemo was probably fine cuz it was still 35-40 degrees and soft esp in the sun.  Must be fun looking at leaves in the woods???

I'll say it was nice to ski in spring gloves on Sunday. That and the most skiable terrain in the northeast. One of the reason's Okemo is so good is because they do a much better job of coming back after a bad weather event. That has been proven over and over again for many years.

 

Granted it doesn't have the best terrain, but at lest they have pretty good snow this season.

post #14 of 21

@Max Capacity and other Okemo skiers -

 

What would you predict for Okemo this weekend?  It's supposed to [bad R-word deleted] on Thursday, then colder (hovering 20s and near-freezing) for the next few days.  Do you think the crowds will be there?  Do you think they'll have ski-able trails?  I'm not really ready for ice!

post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by newboots View Post
 

@Max Capacity and other Okemo skiers -

 

What would you predict for Okemo this weekend?  It's supposed to [bad R-word deleted] on Thursday, then colder (hovering 20s and near-freezing) for the next few days.  Do you think the crowds will be there?  Do you think they'll have ski-able trails?  I'm not really ready for ice!

fwiw I was just at Killington this past weekend and conditions were pretty good overall :)  Of course that means little for what to expect this coming weekend at Okemo but fwiw not too far from Killington.

 

As for crowds? it is MLk weekend and what well known resorts isn't crowded on a holiday weekend in the east? That's why I went this past week instead. But hey, been there done that on holiday weekends too. What can ya do? if that's when we can find the time to make it work it is what it is.

 

Unless its going to be an outright rainout to be expected on your ski days I would go and make it work.

post #16 of 21

@rollin - Thanks!  I was not-so-secretly hoping that the crowds would stay home after the r**n.

 

Both Okemo and my home mountain, Berkshire East, have (I'm told) superior grooming.  There will be colder days for Okemo after the wet stuff.  So I was wondering if they will be able to do better magic with the grooming after Thursday's unhappiness.

 

I'm not skilled enough to cope easily with crowds; for that, I'm safe at B-East!

post #17 of 21

problem with holiday weekend is that too many can only make the trip on 3day weekends due to travel time and so that's when they book their stays and backing out means they dont get to go at all so they still end up going regardless. And often times many stays are non refundable too. So enough people are going to go no matter what. I hate crowds, cant stand it, hate lines, hate fighting for table to eat lunch, hate everything associated with crowds and all the lack of common courtesies that come with the situation. But it is what it is, what can you do when that's the option I have to ski then its either deal with it or don't ski.  I try my best to avoid but the options to do so are not always there. Sometimes its a bummer.

post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by newboots View Post
 

@Max Capacity and other Okemo skiers -

 

What would you predict for Okemo this weekend?  It's supposed to [bad R-word deleted] on Thursday, then colder (hovering 20s and near-freezing) for the next few days.  Do you think the crowds will be there?  Do you think they'll have ski-able trails?  I'm not really ready for ice!

 

A well run mountain can recover from a rain event of this magnitude pretty well.  

 

The key is to get out for the first chair and leave when things start getting scraped off.  It takes a couple of hours before what is really on the ground reveals itself, after all the wonderful grooming is scraped away.  The more crowded the mountain the sooner this happens.

 

Another advantage of a season's pass.  You don't lose any money if you stop skiing at lunch.

post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
 

 

A well run mountain can recover from a rain event of this magnitude pretty well.  

 

The key is to get out for the first chair and leave when things start getting scraped off.  It takes a couple of hours before what is really on the ground reveals itself, after all the wonderful grooming is scraped away.  The more crowded the mountain the sooner this happens.

 

Another advantage of a season's pass.  You don't lose any money if you stop skiing at lunch.

 

Thanks, SMJ!

 

I was going to ask you about this.  So do you think this means Saturday is the best choice, or is it first chair Sunday or Monday, too?  Still trying to understand all this.  BTW, I was at Okemo with a friend Monday and had a great time!  The fundamentals are starting to pay off. 

post #20 of 21

@newboots  Skiing should be good all three days.  Possibly better with each additional day of snowmaking, but I wouldn't worry about it.  Choose the day(s) that works best for you.

 

As to me, I'll be there all three days teaching.  Sunday is fully booked.

post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
 

 

A well run mountain can recover from a rain event of this magnitude pretty well.  

 

 

Yep, some operations will make whales, stash them someplace and groom them into the trail. Vid below shows how the Breck groomers do this, time mark 2:07. Cutting blades and tillers are the key.  Last year Killington made a 30 foot tall glacier over at superstar near the end of winter, they had decent spring skiing season. 

 

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