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My wife and I ski mostly in Pennsylvania and New England and we enjoy skiing all over the mountain. We spend a time on the groomers (no choice at most places we go) but we also like skiing ungroomed trails, bumps and some trees. Up until this year we were renting skis, and after getting boots fitted last year, we decided to pick up some skis this year. She is around 5'4 and 120 lbs, and our local shop recommended the Blizzard X7, so that is what she is skiing on now. While she likes the ski, she says she feels that they get somewhat unstable at speed and when she is getting them on edge. I am not sure how much of it is mental, but she doesn't really feel comfortable on them and wants something more stable. She is going to try and demo in the next couple of weeks and pick up skis at the end of the season, but I wanted to get some suggestions on what skis to start looking at. Thanks!

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My wife and I ski mostly in Pennsylvania and New England and we enjoy skiing all over the mountain. We spend a time on the groomers (no choice at most places we go) but we also like skiing ungroomed trails, bumps and some trees. Up until this year we were renting skis, and after getting boots fitted last year, we decided to pick up some skis this year. She is around 5'4 and 120 lbs, and our local shop recommended the Blizzard X7, so that is what she is skiing on now. While she likes the ski, she says she feels that they get somewhat unstable at speed and when she is getting them on edge. I am not sure how much of it is mental, but she doesn't really feel comfortable on them and wants something more stable. She is going to try and demo in the next couple of weeks and pick up skis at the end of the season, but I wanted to get some suggestions on what skis to start looking at. Thanks!


Do you remember what length the X7 were?  What length skis has she been renting?

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Do you remember what length the X7 were?  What length skis has she been renting?

 

I knew I forgot something. The x7 are 153. I believe the rental skis were 156ish

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Do you remember what length the X7 were?  What length skis has she been renting?

 

I knew I forgot something. The x7 are 153. I believe the rental skis were 156ish


Hmm, at 5'4", 120 pounds seems like 153cm is on the short side.  Not much of a surprise that they didn't feel stable at higher speed.  For reference, I'm 5'0", 120 pounds (older woman, advanced as of 6-7 years ago) and my carvers are 149cm but my all-mountain skis are 159cm since they have some tip rocker.  Typically, people usually are given relatively short skis when they rent unless they ask for something longer.  For a cautious intermediate, a ski that is about nose height is usually a good length.

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My wife, 5'6" (168 cm), 125 lb, advanced skier, uses a 166 cm long, 78 mm wide all-mountain ski. We ski the Poconos and NE.
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Hey partner.  Some good info there but you should provide some more details.  How would you classify her skiing ability, style, and what type of turns does she make?  Is she advanced intermediate or an expert?  Does she ski aggressively or like to kind of mellow out?  Does she like to made medium/wide turns or does she like to jam the fall line?   Where do you mostly ski?  I ski CBK and VT and am pretty familiar with the terrain, so I assume that when you write PA and NE it seems like about 85% if not more of your time is spent on groomers with some bumps and the occasional trip into the glades.  What kind of boots does she have?  How many times a year does she ski?  

 

May seem like a lot of info but all of this matters..........

 

There are fine skis by every manufacturer and selecting the proper one should be fun and enjoyable.  

post #7 of 26
Someone on here reccomended Völkl Yumi as a versataile all mountain womens ski for my daughter.
She's only 13 yrs and 50 kgs/110ish lbs, but race, so she can put pressure on and bend a ski properly.
She really liked it. Fun and easy to ski. On piste, it ripped. She was laying down some serious archs. In the crap snow, great with the slightly wider waist (83). Really liked to jump with them too (allthough demo set too long). Even tried it in a U14 GS course (18 m) and it was more than ok, not bad at all. Seem to be a great allrounder and I'm getting her a discounted set (good mrsp to begin with) before I head to the Dolomites with her.
She skied them in 168 cm. As a ref. she normally ski Rossi FIS Hero 146 in SL, 165 in GS and 186 in SG.
Edited by Karlsson - 2/18/16 at 7:41am
post #8 of 26

I also suspect the short length is not helping.  I'd move to 160 or so.  But a different ski may help also.  My wife just bought a pair of Rossi Temptation 84's for the kind of skiing you describe.  Volkl Yumi was another option. If you have money to burn, I hear the Kastle LX series is very popular w/women.

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Another vote for the Rossi Temptation series. I am a woman slightly taller and slightly heavier. Im also skiing east cast conditions mostly, and have the Temptation 80 at 160. Very fun ski. Stable at speed, I am hitting 70kmph and feeling great. Edges well. It also has the advantage of being easily found at good prices.
post #10 of 26
Kastle LX 82 - I think it comes in a 156.

Great, versatile ski.

Many women are Volkl and Rossi fans but I am not. Certainly worth a demo or two.
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I also suspect the short length is not helping.  I'd move to 160 or so.  But a different ski may help also.  My wife just bought a pair of Rossi Temptation 84's for the kind of skiing you describe.  Volkl Yumi was another option. If you have money to burn, I hear the Kastle LX series is very popular w/women.


I saw a pair of 156 LX82s on EBay, in quite good shape, with demo bindings, for $290 — so a cash bonfire isn't exactly necessary, if she doesn't need brand new skis.

 

 Kästles in general are smooth and stable (I ski FX84s), and I hear that that's true of the LXs as well.  They don't get the kind of press that the MX & FX models get, so the value declines more quickly, and you can get a good deal pretty easily.   Looking at Powder7, for instance, you can get a new pair (in the wrong size) of 2014s for under $500 — demos for under $300.

 

 My wife is 5'4" & 120, too, and I've been trying to get her to demo the LX for a couple of seasons. 

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Kind of wondering of if the LX is an appropriate ride for an intermediate centric skier, particuarly the OP has provided little information about how his wife actually skis (turn style and speed).  Assuming 85% on PA and VT terrain with some mixed bumps and the occasional tree run a ski that provides some rocker to help ease of turn and to help the OP's wife, intermediate skier continue to progress, could be very well served on a Volkl RTM product or for the ladies the Essenza line.  Thinking a Viola is an easy to find product that is available at many local ski stores.  The Kastle is a fine product, MX84 skier here, but for the intermediate skier there are better skis to chose from that can assist the OP's wife development while enabling her to achieve a damper ride.          

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Kind of wondering of if the LX is an appropriate ride for an intermediate centric skier, particuarly the OP has provided little information about how his wife actually skis (turn style and speed).  Assuming 85% on PA and VT terrain with some mixed bumps and the occasional tree run a ski that provides some rocker to help ease of turn and to help the OP's wife, intermediate skier continue to progress, could be very well served on a Volkl RTM product or for the ladies the Essenza line.  Thinking a Viola is an easy to find product that is available at many local ski stores.  The Kastle is a fine product, MX84 skier here, but for the intermediate skier there are better skis to chose from that can assist the OP's wife development while enabling her to achieve a damper ride.          


You could be right, though an MX or an FX isn't an LX — I haven't demoed it myself, but from reviews I gather it's a far more compliant & forgiving ride. Ski Magazine says that "it's so smooth, balanced, versatile, predictable and lightweight, it also earned a no. 1 in Forgiveness, which means meat-of-the-market skiers can share in the enlightenment." 

 

It's a cap ski, so although the metal makes it stable and crud-eating (and the Hollotech tip makes it smooth), it's a much easier flex than our sidewall Kästles, not to mention lighter (silver fir core).

 

A thought, anyway. There are lots of skis on the market. But when I think of stability and smoothness and confidence-building, Kästle comes to mind.

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My wife demoed a LX82 few years back, think we posted a review here. She liked it, thought it was typically smooth, very forgiving, a touch light for what she was used to. For reference, she skis a RX12 and MX88 mostly. I tried a LX92, really liked it, remain confused why it never caught on for lighter or more laid back advanced and expert skiers. For reference, I ski a RX12, FX84, several others. So I think it would make a dandy ski for an intermediate, in that it could grow with the skier, or just remain happy slarving all day. 

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I ski the LX 82. It is forgiving but beefy enough. It is not too stiff in the bumps but you can put it on edge and go.

I teach at Snowmass and see lots of intermediate skiers on this ski from the rental shops.
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Hey partner.  Some good info there but you should provide some more details.  How would you classify her skiing ability, style, and what type of turns does she make?  Is she advanced intermediate or an expert?  Does she ski aggressively or like to kind of mellow out?  Does she like to made medium/wide turns or does she like to jam the fall line?   Where do you mostly ski?  I ski CBK and VT and am pretty familiar with the terrain, so I assume that when you write PA and NE it seems like about 85% if not more of your time is spent on groomers with some bumps and the occasional trip into the glades.  What kind of boots does she have?  How many times a year does she ski?  

 

May seem like a lot of info but all of this matters..........

 

There are fine skis by every manufacturer and selecting the proper one should be fun and enjoyable.  

I would say she is more of an advanced intermediate than an expert. This year we are going to end up skiing about 25 days with 10 days up in Vermont/upstate new York, about 10-12 at Camelback and a trip out west. She  likes to ski fast but she is mostly making medium to wide turns when possible (which isn't always possible at the crowded slopes we are often on).

 

Her boots are Tecnica Fling Inferno which are 90 flex, but the cuff is a little lower. 

 

Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I was thinking the Temptation 84 or the Yumi might be a good option.

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I knew I forgot something. The x7 are 153. I believe the rental skis were 156ish

Dejavu for me - same exact situation and problem last year - and about same size/weight.

 

Her answer she found in: Rossi Temptation 84 in 162cm

 

Prior ski was Rossi Temptation 80 in 152cm and loved them but the faster she went the less comfortable she became.....due to length.  The retail store talked her down a length even though I disagreed with them.  She chose the store over me and now a year later I received 'you were right' speech. 

Prior to that was 2011 K2 TruLuv in 157cm and hate-I mean hated them.  Had absolutely no edge hold.

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My daughter about the same size swopped K2 BL's for Volkl Fuego (non rocker) she says they hold an edge like crazy.

Solved the same problem described here.

Non sure if there is a current equivalent she picked them NOS as was working in a LSS at the time.
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Sorry for bringing this back, but what about the Blizzard Cheyenne in 156? It seems like it would be a good mix for mostly groomed trails and the occasional trip off trail etc. 

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I would say she is more of an advanced intermediate than an expert. This year we are going to end up skiing about 25 days with 10 days up in Vermont/upstate new York, about 10-12 at Camelback and a trip out west. She  likes to ski fast but she is mostly making medium to wide turns when possible (which isn't always possible at the crowded slopes we are often on).

 

Her boots are Tecnica Fling Inferno which are 90 flex, but the cuff is a little lower. 

 

Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I was thinking the Temptation 84 or the Yumi might be a good option.

 

I just came across this feed and figured that I would chime in. I was recently involved in some ski testing with a magazine....albeit of next season's gear....and the women testers were all raving about 1 ski that was hands down the ski of the week. It seems that K2 is coming out with a women's version of the Pinnacle's, and that they are also adding a new 88mm model called the All Luv It (women). Not one of the women testers had anything but praise for the ski, from what I gather even though it 88mm underfoot and in a 163cm they have something like a 12m radius.

 

I personally ski on the Pinnacle 95's and can honestly say that these are one of the best skis I have ever skied on....light, nimble, stable and even at 95mm hold an unshakable edge on eastern hard pack. I managed to demo a pair of the men's Pinnacle 88's for next season and these rip even harder than the 95 when the conditions get harder.....will likely end up getting a pair of these as well!

 

All that said, if your wife is 5'7" and an advanced intermediate, there is no reason that she shouldn't be in a 160ish cm ski that has rocker in it.

 

 

Pray for snow! (next season anyway)

post #21 of 26
Curious if OP has bought skis yet?

My significant other is also 5'4" and 118lbs in her, um, birthday suit biggrin.gif
Live in MA so mostly New England with 1-2 weeks out west each year. Intermediate to advanced intermediate, non aggressive, no trees or larger moguls. Prefers groomers and enjoys single blacks if groomed (Brek peak 10 for instance). She thinks she's a carver but I'd say more slarver.

I'm gonna start a new thread but was wondering what ski you narrowed it down or bought. I have some in mind for GF but will post in new thread.


Thanks
Jeff in MA
post #22 of 26

FWIW, A lot of the women that I ski with are using the Head Super Joy's, and loving them. Great eastern carving ski. They al love them , best ski they have ever skied,etc.

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Agree with graham ^^^^^. 

 

 

My wife's about 5'5", 140. Life long skier, race and teaching background. 55+. Skis with a lot of precision, but also will often just relax and slarve them, pivot them, skid them. Last winter she picked up a pair of Super Joys in a 163cm length, after skiing a friend's for a couple of days. We ski in New England about 2/3 of our ski days, and in CO the rest. Ski 60+ days a season. She skis anything, but doesn't love bumps these days unless they are big, soft, and have good lines. Same with trees....out west, fine. Crowded, tight stuff at home, not so much. Never met a steep groomer that she didn't love, more so with sun these days. 

 

Super Joy is a home run. Probably her favorite ski of all time. And she's had a ton of skis. When she got it, she thought she'd probably still ski a SL ski on the real hard stuff, an a wider ski when there was some fresh snowfall. Nope, skis the SJ's. She has a pair of Samba's, that now get skied only when the snow is 6"+. Last two trips to CO, she skied the SJ every day, in all sorts of conditions. One day she did borrow a pair of Enforcers when we had over a foot of fresh snow, as she wanted tot try them. She now has a second pair of SJ's that lives in CO. 

 

I've heard this consistent feedback from a lot of women on the ski. They love it. Home Run. My wife has skied ALL of the Joy series. She had thought she might like a wider Total Joy as an everyday ski in CO. Tried one for a couple of days, and decided that she much prefers the SJ. 

 

It's light as a feather, but it's plenty damp. It's surprisingly good on all sorts of snow surfaces. It has a short radius, but she doesn't feel like she's locked into nothing but small turns. Comfortable at a variety of speeds. Have no clue how the engineering and layup works, but it does. Also a very good value, price wise. 

 

Our adult kids, who both work in "the business" in CO both commented that mom was just "slaying" it, laughing and smiling all the time. Our daughter has been in Europe a few times over the last two winters, and commented that she saw a lot of good women skiers on the Super Joys. 

 

That ski is worth a look, for sure. 

post #24 of 26
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 My significant other is also 5'4" and 118lbs in her, um, birthday suit biggrin.gif
Live in MA so mostly New England with 1-2 weeks out west each year. Intermediate to advanced intermediate, non aggressive, no trees or larger moguls. Prefers groomers and enjoys single blacks if groomed (Brek peak 10 for instance). She thinks she's a carver but I'd say more slarver.

Just went through a similar process with my girlfriend. She's about 4'10" and 100lbs-ish, so a little smaller, but skiing style sounds similar. A solid intermediate, but likes to take it easy and stick to the groomers. She'll do blacks from time to time if they aren't too scary.

She rented and demoed her way through this season trying out several skies (Rossi Temptation 77, 80, 84; Fischer Koa 84; Head Super Joy) and ended up buying the Volkl Yumi. She said they were working with her to initiate her turns and stable throughout, the most confidence inspiring model she was on. We also live in the northeast (CT), so she's mostly been skiing on the firm pack/ice that's plagued us this winter, but our weekend at Jay had us in a little bit of powder and the Yumis still had her smiling on it all. Hope this helped.

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My wife and I ski mostly in Pennsylvania and New England and we enjoy skiing all over the mountain. We spend a time on the groomers (no choice at most places we go) but we also like skiing ungroomed trails, bumps and some trees. Up until this year we were renting skis, and after getting boots fitted last year, we decided to pick up some skis this year. She is around 5'4 and 120 lbs, and our local shop recommended the Blizzard X7, so that is what she is skiing on now. While she likes the ski, she says she feels that they get somewhat unstable at speed and when she is getting them on edge. I am not sure how much of it is mental, but she doesn't really feel comfortable on them and wants something more stable. She is going to try and demo in the next couple of weeks and pick up skis at the end of the season, but I wanted to get some suggestions on what skis to start looking at. Thanks!

Atomic Cloud 9 are the ski of choice for my wife, she just loves them to bits

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My wife and I ski mostly in Pennsylvania and New England and we enjoy skiing all over the mountain. We spend a time on the groomers (no choice at most places we go) but we also like skiing ungroomed trails, bumps and some trees. Up until this year we were renting skis, and after getting boots fitted last year, we decided to pick up some skis this year. She is around 5'4 and 120 lbs, and our local shop recommended the Blizzard X7, so that is what she is skiing on now. While she likes the ski, she says she feels that they get somewhat unstable at speed and when she is getting them on edge. I am not sure how much of it is mental, but she doesn't really feel comfortable on them and wants something more stable. She is going to try and demo in the next couple of weeks and pick up skis at the end of the season, but I wanted to get some suggestions on what skis to start looking at. Thanks!

 

My wife it about the same as your all around.  My wife currently has the Atomic Vantage Supreme 158 (bought two seasons ago) which she liked a lot.  It is 87 underfoot and carves really well.  However, last season we bid on a pair of Dynastar Cham 87 and she won.  They were 166 in length but the surface on flat terrain touching was pretty close to the same.  So she started with the Vantage then switched to the Chams and never looked back.  I have a pair of Chams as well these skis have great turn initiation due to the rockered tip and deep side cut.  In addition, the rockered shovel is wide enough so those days where we get powder or chop conditions it floats really well.  Really likes her Chams!

 

That being said, I am now getting her the Rossignol Saffron 7 at 98 underfoot to serve as her daily driver for most powder chop or crud days unless things are really firm then the Chams will come into play.  Saffrons are light with the air tips.  Reports are that it has great turn initiation and is a dream to ski.

 

All three skis are great.

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