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post #1 of 29
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Planning a ski trip for March 5-7. Reccomendations on destinations to hit? Will likely only ski one resort. Had to be within 8 hours of Ogden Utah

I'm in search of light, soft, and fluffy powder. Anywhere that I can count on 6 inches or more is great. I enjoy all pitches of terrain but my ski parter who will be joining me would prefer nothing insane especially if there isn't powder. Don't want to do a ton of hiking but wouldn't mind a easy sub 30 min hike for a great run. Trees are great and some spaced trees would be dreamy. Anything with powder (and some fun drops) is great.

I have been looking at Jackson Hole, Aspen, Wolf Creek, and would love to try Silverton but its booked.
Edited by kbat11700 - 2/16/16 at 7:51pm
post #2 of 29

Two things that spring to mind :

 

1) It's really hard to predict powder and light fluffy snow more than a few days in advance. Most resorts are in areas with weather that's just too unpredictable. That said, resorts that are getting more snow are more likely to have some during your trip. Most of colorado is having a good year, as is Mammoth in California, and many of the Canadian resorts. Lake Tahoe area is having a good year too, but is more unpredictable with rain and warm temps.

 

2) 45 degrees is really, really steep. Most black diamond terrain (or even double black diamond) doesn't even hit 45 degrees. It's probably better to provide where you've skied before and enjoyed so folks can get a sense of what you like to ski. 

 

A little more info would be good overall - are you thinking Western US? Is Canada OK? Any particular other concerns like budget or amenities or altitude issues?

post #3 of 29

I recommend Banff, Canada.  March is the best time to go. You can explore: Kicking Horse (10 km green run fr peak to the base, can't beat that), Lake Louise, Sunshine village and mount Norquay.  I just visited there and Sunshine is my favorite, the snow is powdery and condition was superb (it will get better in March). If you do go, I'd also recommend the free mtn tours at Sunshine and LL, both are very well run programs.  Sunshine has tour divided to light blue runs and dark blue runs; LL has tour divided to Green, Green Blue, Blue, Hard Blue, Black and Double Black.  Last but not least, the exchange rate is very favorable now: $1 USD = $1.38 CDN.  Canadians are super friendly and hospitable, they would literally go above and beyond to help you, to make sure you'll have a good time.... 

post #4 of 29
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post
 

Two things that spring to mind :

 

1) It's really hard to predict powder and light fluffy snow more than a few days in advance. Most resorts are in areas with weather that's just too unpredictable. That said, resorts that are getting more snow are more likely to have some during your trip. Most of colorado is having a good year, as is Mammoth in California, and many of the Canadian resorts. Lake Tahoe area is having a good year too, but is more unpredictable with rain and warm temps.

 

2) 45 degrees is really, really steep. Most black diamond terrain (or even double black diamond) doesn't even hit 45 degrees. It's probably better to provide where you've skied before and enjoyed so folks can get a sense of what you like to ski. 

 

A little more info would be good overall - are you thinking Western US? Is Canada OK? Any particular other concerns like budget or amenities or altitude issues?

Will edit the post with more information. I was told that 45 degrees was what I was skiing. I have enjoyed Middle Bowl cirque at Snowbasin, but my favorite pitches are what you find on your typical black/double black run. Steep but not so steep that you can not open up.

 

Canada is a little far. I will be driving so would prefer wishing 8 hours of Ogden Utah.

Originally Posted by fosphenytoin View Post
 

I recommend Banff, Canada.  March is the best time to go. You can explore: Kicking Horse (10 km green run fr peak to the base, can't beat that), Lake Louise, Sunshine village and mount Norquay.  I just visited there and Sunshine is my favorite, the snow is powdery and condition was superb (it will get better in March). If you do go, I'd also recommend the free mtn tours at Sunshine and LL, both are very well run programs.  Sunshine has tour divided to light blue runs and dark blue runs; LL has tour divided to Green, Green Blue, Blue, Hard Blue, Black and Double Black.  Last but not least, the exchange rate is very favorable now: $1 USD = $1.38 CDN.  Canadians are super friendly and hospitable, they would literally go above and beyond to help you, to make sure you'll have a good time.... 

Sounds great. Its a little far though.

post #5 of 29
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Originally Posted by kbat11700 View Post
 

I was told that 45 degrees was what I was skiing. I have enjoyed Middle Bowl cirque at Snowbasin, but my favorite pitches are what you find on your typical black/double black run. Steep but not so steep that you can not open up.

 

That area may well have some shots over 45 degrees, especially if it's "hike-to" areas. My point was actually that you said you're fine with steeps, but your ski partner doesn't want anything over 45 degrees. That's a bit odd to my thinking, because it's sort of like saying they want to ski the difficult double blacks, but not the really difficult double blacks. Most people who can ski things in the 45 degree range just say they like to ski anything in bounds, possibly with the exception of cliffs or other hazards.

 

Anyway, the driving from Ogden aspect definitely limits things. That puts Canada, PNW, northern Montana, California, and parts of southern Colorado too far away. And you already live in a place the is pretty likely to be your best choice, provided the weather shifts. Otherwise, within 8 hours (not including Utah) for major resorts there's :

 

Jackson Hole

Grand Targhee

Big Sky

Aspen

Telluride

Crested Butte

Steamboat

Sun Valley

Beaver Creek

Vail

Copper

Keystone

 

There are numerous smaller areas too, like Arapahoe Basin, Bridger Bowl, etc. (You might want to look at something like this http://www.onthesnow.com/united-states/map.html and browse around)

 

Do you have the freedom to wait until a couple of days before and look at the weather then?

post #6 of 29
Thread Starter 
I have till this weekend to pick a destination. How does Jackson Hole compare to Grand Targhee?
post #7 of 29
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Originally Posted by kbat11700 View Post

I have till this weekend to pick a destination. How does Jackson Hole compare to Grand Targhee?


Very different.  Let's assume good visibility.  JH is a destination resort with a lot of different areas to explore.  Can take a day or two to figure out the place.  Plenty of steeps.  GT has essentially three lifts, with most of the skiing off a high speed to the summit or a slow double where there are even fewer people.  Get off the lift, point the skis down, and go wherever.  Not going to find much in the way of tree skiing.  A few steep chutes, but mostly wide open bowl skiing.

 

JH can have serious lift lines on a powder day on the tram and a few other lifts.  GT . . . does not have lift lines.  GT can end up with more powder than JH from the same storm because it's on the west side of the mountains.  Think about the difference between LCC and the Ogden Valley for some snowstorms.

 

JH is near the town of Jackson so lots of lodging options.  GT is near Driggs, with a few good small motels and a few good restaurants.  If you want night life, JH makes more sense.  I like The Pines Motel in Driggs.

post #8 of 29

My recommendations:

1) Telluride

2) Crested Butte

3) JH/GT (if you are there, hit them both!)

4) Big Sky

post #9 of 29
When you figure out where you can "count on" 6" of soft, light, fluffy powder 2 1/2 weeks from now, please let the rest of us know. smile.gif
post #10 of 29

So let me get this straight:  you're in Utah, and you want to ski someplace else that has a good chance of getting fresh powder.  Other people go to Utah to try to get what you're looking for.  

 

OK, you've got three days, right?  So a longer drive to get there and back doesn't make much sense to me.  From Ogden, Targhee and Jackson are much closer than Big Sky or anyplace in CO.

 

Probably the most reliable snow is Grand Targhee (other than say, Utah), and it's much easier (and more fun) to ski Targhee with a partner that doesn't want to hit gnarly terrain than at Jackson.  Also, even if Targhee and Jackson both get the same amount of snow from a storm, at Jackson it'll be pretty much tracked up by noon; at Targhee it'll take a day or two or three.  

 

The other option is, forget about the powder and go to Sun Valley.  It'll be just like Snowbasin, only with sunshine and a great ski town right there at the mountain. 

post #11 of 29
Within eight hours of Ogden, good chance of light powder, varied terrain, not too difficult blacks, good steeps within a short hike.

Sounds like Snowbasin would be perfect.
post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by MrGolfAnalogy View Post

Within eight hours of Ogden, good chance of light powder, varied terrain, not too difficult blacks, good steeps within a short hike.

Sounds like Snowbasin would be perfect.


Yes, but variety is the spice of life.  The OP knows at least some of what Snowbasin has to offer.  Why not to explore some place else when the opportunity is available?

post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post


Yes, but variety is the spice of life.  The OP knows at least some of what Snowbasin has to offer.  Why not to explore some place else when the opportunity is available?

Agreed, but it does sound like the OP has exactly what he is looking for at Snowbasin, and hopes to replicate it somewhere else. That's not variety, it's a busman's holiday.
post #14 of 29

Anthony Lakes is about 7 1/2 hours away.  They're only open Thursday through Sunday.  They run a cat skiing operation that is a steal for the price.  Schedule a trip there on a Thursday and you can be reasonably assured of getting good snow.

 

http://anthonylakes.com/cat-trips/

post #15 of 29
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Anthony Lakes is about 7 1/2 hours away.  They're only open Thursday through Sunday.  They run a cat skiing operation that is a steal for the price.  Schedule a trip there on a Thursday and you can be reasonably assured of getting good snow.

 

http://anthonylakes.com/cat-trips/


Have you been lately?  Looks like fun idea to combine with a few days at Sun Valley.

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Quote:  from the TR
We checked in and paid our ridiculously cheap price of $199. Yes, I said $199, that price included delicious cinnamon rolls and coffee for breakfast, a sack lunch including a decent sub, chips, orange, granola bar, and a cookie. We signed the usual waivers and those that needed beacons were provided them with no additional charge.

This place has been running cat trips since the 70's, as such they have their terrain pretty well dialed. We loaded onto a luxurious cat, the seats were like a greyhound bus, plenty of hooks for gear, warmth and a fan circulating air, sound system ready for your music source (although it does cut out a bit, heh). On our way up the guides introduced themselves and ran over safety protocols and the plans for the day. As we climbed past the lift served area we had plenty of time to all introduce ourselves and get to know one another.

Sounds great!  Nice TR.  Definitely making a note for the next time I drive in that direction.  There are so many options flying in SLC if have the time and interest to do some driving from there.

post #18 of 29
Thread Starter 
Most cat ski operations are to expensive for me. I will be looking into that closely. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post


Yes, but variety is the spice of life.  The OP knows at least some of what Snowbasin has to offer.  Why not to explore some place else when the opportunity is available?
I have explored and found all the best powder spots at Snowbasin. I already know that it is exactly what I (think) I love in a mountain. But I have been to a total of 4 different resorts in my life. Zugspitze Germany, Snowbasin Utah, Nordic Valley Utah, and Feldburg Germany. I love going new places and enjoying new things.
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Originally Posted by Lofcaudio View Post

My recommendations:
1) Telluride
2) Crested Butte
3) JH/GT (if you are there, hit them both!)
4) Big Sky
I'm curious about Big Sky. Will look into it.
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Originally Posted by MrGolfAnalogy View Post

Within eight hours of Ogden, good chance of light powder, varied terrain, not too difficult blacks, good steeps within a short hike.

Sounds like Snowbasin would be perfect.
And it is! I want to experience somthing new though.

Honestly, just want to have a great experience skiing with a buddy. Powder is the goal, just wanted to hear others recommendations for a place to visit. I think I will do a day at JH, and then another at JH or a day at GT depending on how I liked JH.
post #19 of 29

Big Sky is worth the drive when you also have time to spend a day at Bridger.  Not worth it for a 3-day long weekend though.  I combined an overnight stop at Driggs to ski GT on the way to the EpicSki Gathering at Bridger/Big Sky a few years ago.  My friends and I stayed in a condo at Big Sky for a week, and drove to Bridger the first couple days.  Not much different than driving from SLC to Snowbasin in terms of time.

post #20 of 29
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But I have been to a total of 4 different resorts in my life.

 

None of which are the Cottonwoods?!?!?!?  There's your answer and you don't even have to leave Utah.

post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by kbat11700 View Post


Honestly, just want to have a great experience skiing with a buddy. Powder is the goal, just wanted to hear others recommendations for a place to visit.

If powder is a top priority, then I think you have to find a way to be flexible with your destination. Luckily you are in a location where you can access areas that are influenced by different weather systems. I would watch the weather with a plan to chase the powder, even if that means staying in Utah and hitting the Cottonwoods.
post #22 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the information. Leaning towards JH/GT at the moment just due to the fact that JH is a bucket list destination of mine but will keep my eyes on the weather channel.

What do you guys know about Silverton? Looks dream like according to the website and they are sold out till April.
post #23 of 29
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What do you guys know about Silverton? Looks dream like according to the website and they are sold out till April.

 

Just what I've read here. They only do guided skiing until April sometime, then you can do unguided. There's one lift, and then hiking. Lots of steeps and chutes, and they farm powder runs, which has pros and cons. They also do single shot heli rides I believe. Some threads here :

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/101978/the-silverton-experience-in-depth

http://www.epicski.com/t/120944/silverton-199-pass

http://www.epicski.com/t/53516/silverton-3-4-long

http://www.epicski.com/t/27621/silverton

http://www.epicski.com/t/89552/abilities-for-silverton

http://www.epicski.com/t/145681/silverton-2-14-16#post_1976123

post #24 of 29

Just wait until 3/4 to decide and drive to whomever has the best snow.

 

Silverton usually lets standby's up. 

post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post
 

 

Just what I've read here. They only do guided skiing until April sometime, then you can do unguided. There's one lift, and then hiking. Lots of steeps and chutes, and they farm powder runs, which has pros and cons. They also do single shot heli rides I believe. Some threads here :

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/101978/the-silverton-experience-in-depth

http://www.epicski.com/t/120944/silverton-199-pass

http://www.epicski.com/t/53516/silverton-3-4-long

http://www.epicski.com/t/27621/silverton

http://www.epicski.com/t/89552/abilities-for-silverton

http://www.epicski.com/t/145681/silverton-2-14-16#post_1976123

good informatino. Seems to be an very advanced hill. I know I can ski most anything but i like to do so at my own pace. The next unguided time is early April. Might just hit it next season.

 

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Just wait until 3/4 to decide and drive to whomever has the best snow.

 

Silverton usually lets standby's up. 

I have till this Sunday to decide. When you say that Silverton "usually" lets standbys up, do you mean up unguided or they take them on guided skiing.

post #26 of 29

Silverton usually has a standby list for guided.  If you pop for a private guide, you'd get on for sure.

post #27 of 29
Thread Starter 
So I "think" my partner and I have decided. Jackson Hole is a bucket list destination for me and I won't live with myself if I skip the oppurtunity to look down Corbets for some better pow.

I think we will spend day 1 at Jackson, Day 2 at Targhee, and day 3 at whichever we liked better.

I learned to ski powder on skinny skis (85 underfoot, fully cambered) and never found it reasonable to spend $600 when I enjoy my current skis. Is it worth it to spend $36 to rent some soul 7's for the weekend if it looks like we will be skiing the pow.
post #28 of 29

Maybe this will help?  Targhee the end of Jan.

 

post #29 of 29
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Maybe this will help?  Targhee the end of Jan.



If I get a day like that I will believ that I have died and gone to heaven. A gentle but fun slope with well spaced snow covered Christmas trees with fluffy stuff everywhere. I'm going to Wyoming! Even if its full of moguls and not pow pow, that will still be memorable.
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