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Cross-country skiing makes downhill look tame

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Who would have thought cross-country skiing would be so horrifyingly dangerous? 

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The Stowe Derby (a cross-country race from the top of the ski mountain to the town, 8 miles away) has "carnage corner" where the ski trail they use for the descent goes around a hairpin turn.  There's always a big crowd of spectators there to witness the crashes and ski patrol to help pull people out of the woods, etc.

 

But the carnage of "carnage corner" is nothing compared to that video!  That looks insane!

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Oh my gosh.  I know it's bad, but I couldn't stop laughing.  The poor souls who went down didn't know their life depended on them getting up as quickly as possible and getting out of the line of fire.  Must have been one of those events in Europe/Scandinavia with thousands of participants.  Wasn't surprised the cameraman got nailed once or twice off the edge of the trail.

 

We've been encouraging a newbie to try X-C in another thread that he started with questions.  I'm going to post a link to this one in there for laughs, but then he'll probably never want to try it.:D 

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It's video from Vasaloppet. There's 15-16.000 people on start, race is 90km so with being a bit tired, and considering a lot of people out of those 16.000 are not top skiers, you get what you see :) Otherwise yet it can get pretty damn crazy on xc skis, if you know, that top speed on races can be in range on 80-90km... on 4cm wide skis without edges, low boots with no real support (classic is even worse then skating when it comes to this) and with bindings without heel fix ;) This was one of my downhills on biathlon World cup tracks in Pokljuka this winter, but it was slow snow, so it was just a bit under 70km/h, but it still looks a bit better then the crash festival at Vasa :D
https://vimeo.com/150537665
But good thing with xc is, that because of equipment, you hardly ever get serious injuries. You break skis and poles, you lose some skin sliding over icy snow just in lycra, but in most cases, that's all you do. No broken bones, no torn ligaments, so xc is pretty safe, even if it looks anything but that on video from Vasa :)

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I could not help but think this must be what the Black Friday buying melee at Walmart looks like in Sweden. Would be fun to see how the survivors skied home carrying a big ass flat TV. 

As the Romans admonished their warriors: Come back with your screen or on it.

D1

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Not surprised from my limited experience with classic XC skis, you might as well just stand on two wooden sticks that's locked in direction and try to hang on lol. Even on good snow trying to brake is next to impossible with those rounded soft plastic edges. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by primoz View Post
 

But good thing with xc is, that because of equipment, you hardly ever get serious injuries. You break skis and poles, you lose some skin sliding over icy snow just in lycra, but in most cases, that's all you do. No broken bones, no torn ligaments, so xc is pretty safe, even if it looks anything but that on video from Vasa :)

 

True, at least until you put wheels on the xc-skis. I have had more injuries in my ~40 days of XC roller skiing than in a lifetime of alpine and tele skiing :D The local track typically leads to speeds in 30 mph range with medium speed wheels, and going through turns at that speed to me is more scary than most things I do on snow on alpine skis. On the other hand your point is still valid, road rash heals a lot faster than twisted knees...

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I've definitely been more scared going downhill on xc than alpine skis.
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Smear in 20 years of racing, I have been through few falls on xc roller skis, including few at 60 or 70km/h... much much more unpleasant then on snow :D But as you said, you are fine from that in few days, while broken bones or torn ligaments heal much longer. But still, I rather not crash on roller skis, if I need to crash I rather do it on snow :D

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Smear in 20 years of racing, I have been through few falls on xc roller skis, including few at 60 or 70km/h... 

 

I guess that's true for most xc-skiers that roll in the summer. Marit Bjørgen had a fall in a race this summer and claimed in an interview afterwards that this was the first time ever that she hit the pavement. I was recovering from some broken ribs and some more fresh road rash at the time and was going like WHAT?!??! First fall ever?!?!! ever-ever? Athletic talent I guess... Falling at 60-70 km/h must have been very bad...

 

We live in the same street as Johaug and it's a fairly steep meandering road with driveways coming in from the side, busses stopping, upcoming traffic coming into the downhill lane etc. Johaug and her teammates just sets off and pole downhill at the top to get their speed up, I can not believe how they dear to do that and not sure I ever will be able to go down that hill. For myself I will at least be staying out of traffic until I learn how to brake properly;) 

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Smear thing is probably same as with any other sport... first you are on skis/roller skis every day for years and years. You get some extra balance and technique through this, so it's hard to compare with "normal" people who do this few times a week/month/year. Another thing is age... no matter how it sounds, but I see with myself... the older I get, the "smarter" I get, and before doing something stupid I think of consequences, well at least a little bit :D... when I was still racing, I was immortal. Cars can't hit me, buses will move away if I won't be able to stop on roller skis on some bad downhill, basically nothing can happen. You won't crash, all will be fine, so you just go full speed. Nowadays, I still feel more or less immortal on skis, but on bike, inline skates or roller skis, I think twice before going full speed :)

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