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So is there any Glade skiing possible in the NY/Vermont regions?
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All the Vermont areas offer skiing off the groomed trails.  This season's snowfall has been deficient so as to render these tree skiing areas less than fun, mostly.

 

Lots of "Eastern trees" can be best described as bushwhacking!  Fun is a twisted sort of way.  ;-)

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Ya that's what I kind of figured. Any fresh stashes from last week are probably few and far between anyways. I'm just going to have to make an impromptu sick day for when/if we have a storm in the near future on the east. Living in North Eastern PA doesn't really provide many big mountain options after a decent snow storm other than quick access to the highway. Figures are crossed for one or two more decent dumps.
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Come ski Tuesday morning.  Any time before noon in S. VT 

 

There should be at least 6 inches of fresh just waiting for you.

 

After noon,  it's supposed to rain ;-)

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Ya that's what I kind of figured. Any fresh stashes from last week are probably few and far between anyways. I'm just going to have to make an impromptu sick day for when/if we have a storm in the near future on the east. Living in North Eastern PA doesn't really provide many big mountain options after a decent snow storm other than quick access to the highway. Figures are crossed for one or two more decent dumps.


No idea what current conditions are, but I had a good time in fairly wide open trees at Pico and Sugarbush last season after a snowstorm.

 

Have you even been to Plattekill or Belleayre?

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The trees at Mont-Sainte-Anne were good yesterday, and unpleasant this afternoon.

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Actually going to head to bellearye
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No idea what current conditions are, but I had a good time in fairly wide open trees at Pico and Sugarbush last season after a snowstorm.

Have you even been to Plattekill or Belleayre?

I have tomorrow off so I am actually going to check out Bellearye tomorrow. I was never there before; it looks like a large enough mountain to find some decent features. Regardless, any day skiing is better then a day working.
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Below is a comment after a first trip to Belleayre (click on the green arrow to go to the original thread/post).  Let us know what you think.

 

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Well, we are back from our weekend in Belleayre and I thought would share some thoughts. First, I must say that it was just fabulous! I loved the variety of trails and everyone there was very pleasant. It really felt like our hill at home (only twice the size). We quickly learned to arrive early (which we always do whenever and wherever we ski) and ski the trails on the left side of the mountain by the Superchief lift for the first hour or two and then move over to the right side of the mountain by the Tomahawk lift. Saturday was a bluebird sky day and they had events going on, but the lift lines were not very busy despite all parking lots being passed and both lodges overflowing. Today we only ski'd for a half day and stuck to the right side of the mountain. Since we had two day passes, we were able to park in the upper lot by the Tomahawk lift and walk directly to it. For the time that we were there it was overcast and snowing.  It snowed about 2" while we were there and the conditions were just fabulous! We were all extremely happy to have made the journey. I recommend it to anyone who likes a nice laid back ski area.

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So is there any Glade skiing possible in the NY/Vermont regions?


maybe on the lowest angle tree runs, where I'm at Middlebury Snowbowl we have about a 10-12" base and that is on top of dirt, rocks, sticks , we have lost the good frozen base that finally happened from about 2 weeks ago and now we are basically starting over again. Anything with a decent pitch will be scraped down to earth in one pass and dirt/ rocks will be hit. Not ceratin about others areas nearby but don't think much is better. Maybe Sugarloaf in Maine or N. Vermont but sure haven't heard any rave reviews.

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@snowbowler = M Snow Bowl?

Took me 10+ years to get that one!

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At the moment, there is no good tree skiing in Vermont. We have had very little snow, a lot of warm temps, and a number of inopportune rain events this season, all of which have conspired to leave us with less snow on the ground right now than there has ever been at this point of the season since records have been kept. 50" of snow at the Mt. Mansfield snow stake is considered the benchmark for when the trees are fully skiable. At last measure, there was only 24" at the stake. With a potential rain event on the schedule for tomorrow night. 

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To be fair I did make one run into a tree section today. I had worked on cleaning it out from last years  ice damage over the summer and wanted to at least try and see what it skied like. Saying I skied it would be a misnomer, I got down it, didn't get any damage to self or skis so that's an accomplishment? The built in advantage I have is because I go up and hike and prune I know what is under the snow in a lot of the places. It paid off today as I had to side slip a pretty steep section and knew there wasn't any rock or ledge in this one spot. Frozen , loose leaves are side slippable. All that being said unless we get some decent snow 10-15"+ I won't be going back in and I have a lot of kids I'm instructing/skiing with that want to do the trees and we all are frustrated.

Going to CO next week and if last year is any indicator you will all be happy on the east coast. Day I left last year it started dumping here and my friends treated me to a video of them skiing woods at the Snow Bowl in 2' powder shots ha ha

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I have been to NH & southern Vermont and things were pretty bony. Heading to Maine for a couple of weeks & hoping for the best

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Do you know that Maine gets 1/2 THE SNOW VT gets year to year?...This year is no different.

BTW...you are a Stowe Guy....you stay over at Wallyword? 

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Do you know that Maine gets 1/2 THE SNOW VT gets year to year?...This year is no different.

BTW...you are a Stowe Guy....you stay over at Wallyword? 

This is very deceptive. New Hampshire and Maine do very well compared to Vermont on coastal storms. They also have the only above tree line skiing in New England. The measurements you speak of largely rely on marketing reports. You'd do well to keep an eye on NOAA snow depth reports. New Hampshire and Maine are usually a lot deeper than Vermont.

 

http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/nsa/

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This is very deceptive. New Hampshire and Maine do very well compared to Vermont on coastal storms. They also have the only above tree line skiing in New England. The measurements you speak of largely rely on marketing reports. You'd do well to keep an eye on NOAA snow depth reports. New Hampshire and Maine are usually a lot deeper than Vermont.

 

http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/nsa/

 

While NH and Maine tend to get more snow from coastal storms, Vermont is better positioned to take advantage of terrain enhanced events. National snow depth maps will not show this, as the area of deep snow is so small it doesn't show up. But it is not at all unusual for me to walk out my front door to 2 or 3 inches of snow in my front yard in the Champlain valley, and find well over a foot on the mountain. It's not even unusual to have less than a foot on the ground in Stowe Village, but 5 or 6 feet on the ground up on the mountain. It's not at all marketing hype. If it were, does that mean that all the mountains in NH and ME have horrible marketing departments? No, it means that there is actually a difference. I grew up outside Boston, and skied NH exclusively as a kid. Waterville, Loon, Wildcat, Attitash, etc. Then I started taking trips to VT in high school, and moved here after college. I've experienced snow in both places. I assure you, there is typically much more snow in VT than there is in NH. 

 

Also, VT doesn't have any above treeline skiing? 

 

 

Trying to figure out where the trees are there. 

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