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Nordica Enforcer for light skier?

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I'm male 5'7" 130lbs. Interested in trying out Enforcers if I have the chance, since so many people are raving about them. But I vaguely remember hearing they might not be great for lighter skiers.

 

I have Soul Riders, which I love. I have tried Hell and Back, they were ok, but sorta felt like a plank. Where do the Enforcers fit in?

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Originally Posted by nemesis256 View Post
 

I'm male 5'7" 130lbs. Interested in trying out Enforcers if I have the chance, since so many people are raving about them. But I vaguely remember hearing they might not be great for lighter skiers.

 

I have Soul Riders, which I love. I have tried Hell and Back, they were ok, but sorta felt like a plank. Where do the Enforcers fit in?


That's been a question, for sure.  A light guy on Pugski was asking about the Santa Ana (the woman's Enforcer), and that might a consideration for you.  At your weight, a 169 Enforcer might sound logical, but the 169 really skis differently than longer lengths. I'd demo a 177, if you can find one.  The Enforcer's not a 2x4, but I can't say how it would work for you. I own the 177, and I'm an inch shorter, but I outweigh you by forty pounds.  Demos are the key.  

 

Sunapee and Okemo have spring demo days — as will other resorts, I think — and both should have Enforcer demos. The new 93 may be available, too. I'm not sure about Santa Ana demos, but it might be worth a call.  Bob Skinner's at Sunapee does the demo day there.  The Okemo demo seems to be a number of different retailers.

 

@LiquidFeet, are there spring demos at Cannon that you know of?

 

It's a great ski. Worth investigating.

post #3 of 14
Don't even think about demoing the 169 Enforcer. I'm a Nordica fan, but I demoed the 169 Enforcer and didn't like it at all, felt planky and totally failed my "fun" test. I know several others who had the same reaction to the 169. Then I demoed the 177 and it was like a completely different ski. I spent an entire day on it and it was fun. But, I also have a 177 Soul RIder which I really like and while the Enforcer is a very different ski, I couldn't justify having a 97mm and 100mm ski. When I can, I ski mostly off piste and the Soul Rider works better for me in those conditions. And when I'm forced to ski groomers all day, as I am now due to poor snow coverage, I'm not spending my time on a 100mm ski, I want something around 80-85mm. I'm 5'7", 150 pounds, advanced skier.
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And when I'm forced to ski groomers all day, as I am now due to poor snow , I'm not spending my time on a 100mm ski, I want something around 80-85mm. I'm 5'7", 150 pounds, advanced skier.

I would have said the same thing before skiing the 177 half the night Friday night on hard but edgeable snow and 17°. It absolutely railed, much better than my 84 -- which isn't, I admit, a carving specialist, though it does very well. The 100 would have killed it today, too, under similar conditions (20° colder), but they were in the shop for a grind. I couldn't in conscience recommend a 100 as an eastern OSQ, but it sure is a remarkable ski.
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I would also push you towards the Enforcer 93. I skied it last weekend. It like's to turn and was fun. I'm think the 169 or shorter if it comes that way would work for you.

 

Demo them.

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I would also push you towards the Enforcer 93. I skied it last weekend. It like's to turn and was fun. I'm think the 169 or shorter if it comes that way would work for you.

 

Demo them.

I wasn't able to go the Copper Mtn demos this year due to an injury, so I have no actual experience with it,  its available in the same lengths as the Enforcer S(100mm).  Internally these two skis are very much alike so I would be cautious about recommending the 169 Enforcer 93 to anyone.  I'd recommend trying it in a 177.

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I would also push you towards the Enforcer 93. I skied it last weekend. It like's to turn and was fun. I'm think the 169 or shorter if it comes that way would work for you.

 

Demo them.

I wasn't able to go the Copper Mtn demos this year due to an injury, so I have no actual experience with it,  its available in the same lengths as the Enforcer S(100mm).  Internally these two skis are very much alike so I would be cautious about recommending the 169 Enforcer 93 to anyone.  I'd recommend trying it in a 177.


It seems as if Phil found the 93 a different animal in some respects: http://forum.pugski.com/threads/long-term-test-2017-nordica-enforcer-93.785/

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I wasn't able to go the Copper Mtn demos this year due to an injury, so I have no actual experience with it,  its available in the same lengths as the Enforcer S(100mm).  Internally these two skis are very much alike so I would be cautious about recommending the 169 Enforcer 93 to anyone.  I'd recommend trying it in a 177.


The guy weight's 130lbs. Unless he's a Masters racer, I can't see him on a 177cm ski of this style.

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It seems as if Phil found the 93 a different animal in some respects: http://forum.pugski.com/threads/long-term-test-2017-nordica-enforcer-93.785/


Didn't read all of Phils thread, but I will agree the 93 in 177cm skied short. I'm 5'11" 195-200lbs. I felt it liked to turn and be on edge.

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It seems as if Phil found the 93 a different animal in some respects: http://forum.pugski.com/threads/long-term-test-2017-nordica-enforcer-93.785/


Didn't read all of Phils thread, but I will agree the 93 in 177cm skied short. I'm 5'11" 195-200lbs. I felt it liked to turn and be on edge.


It'll be interesting to demo that ski. I can't imagine skiing a 185 comfortably, but wonders never cease. 

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It'll be interesting to demo that ski. I can't imagine skiing a 185 comfortably, but wonders never cease. 


I'd have to agree, being here in the east.

 

But I will say I was surprised how easy my Volkl Shiro's were in the trees at Sugarloaf, they are 183cm. So may be we need to open our minds to longer skis again.

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It'll be interesting to demo that ski. I can't imagine skiing a 185 comfortably, but wonders never cease. 


I'd have to agree, being here in the east.

 

But I will say I was surprised how easy my Volkl Shiro's were in the trees at Sugarloaf, they are 183cm. So may be we need to open our minds to longer skis again.


Yeah. I suppose if any ski could be turny for me at 185, it'd be the Enforcer. Still, it'd look weird. The 177 is 10cm taller than I am already.

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Nemesis256 check out the Fischer Motive 95ti. I am just about your size (10lbs heavier) and love this ski in the 168cm. I've skied it in all conditions except deep powder. Lively, stable, fun. Incredibly versatile ski. My personal favorite ski. I skied the Enforcer 169cm and didn't like it for a variety of reasons. Skied the Bonafide and really liked it, was about to purchase it until a friend offered his Motive 95 to try. Wow, absolutely loved it. Found a 14/15 model (same ski as this year other than graphics) at an incredible price and no other ski in my quiver has seen snow since.

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I'm a woman - OP's height and weigh about 65 lbs more than OP. Advanced skier. I wouldn't write off the Nordica Santa Ana so quickly. I demoed the Santa Ana in a 169 last weekend at Lake Louise, and was totally blown away by the ski. This is a serious ski – even though it has a wood core and no metal, this is a stiff, powerful ski that can bomb down and through anything. I took it through soft chop, crud, powder piles, scraped off groomers, and even lower mountain end of the day slush and the ski was amazing. I normally ski a Volkl Kenja and found the Santa Ana to be just as stable but much less work. I was actually really shocked at how good and powerful it was on the groomers. But at the same time, it's the most playful ski I've been on that is also that stiff. At your weight, I really think you ought to give it a try. I seriously love this ski, it's actually a very versatile all around ski. And so much fun.
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