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Blizzard Bonafide vs Nordica Nrgy 100 vs Nordica Enforcer

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Hello everyone, new here to Epicski and this is my first post.  Have to say I am loving all the forums.

 

I’m 35 years old, have been skiing since I was a teenage but didn’t ski during my 20’s.  Now I am back at it and looking for an All Mountain ski.  This season I am looking for a one quiver ski 100mm, as next season I will probably add an 80mm & 120mm ski to have a 3 ski quiver.  This season I will ski about 20 days, but next season I am buying a Cali4nia season pass, so will get to ski much more often.  I’m an intermediate to advanced skier but looking to buy something I can grow into.  I live in California, LA and ski Mammoth, Snow Summit and Big Bear.  I am 6’2” 195lbs.  An adrenaline junkie and love to challenge myself.

 

I have narrowed it down to the Blizzard Bonafide (187mm), Nordica Nrgy 100 (185mm) & Nordica Enforcer (185mm or 193mm).

 

I know the next step is to demo all 3 skis, but just want everyone’s input and thoughts from their experiences.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Dave

post #2 of 20
How much have you skied last year or this year? Where do you like to ski? Bonafide and Enforcer are somewhat expert level boards, geared for off-groomer skiing. If you like to stay on the groomers fir a significant time period I'd look at different skis altogether.
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

Last year I only skied about 6 days, nothing like this season or next.  Found that I picked it right back up and could hit the blacks just like my youth.  Mostly ski Mammoth, Snow Summit and Big Bear.  I make sure to take a lesson or two ever season to improve my skills.  With being out west now and getting lots of powder this year I am skiing more and more off groomers and loving it.  Looking for an all mountain, 1 quiver ski for the rest of the season and next, then I will pick up 2 more skis.

post #4 of 20
Bonafide in 187 or 185 Enfircer would work for your body size. Do try to demo to make sure your skills agree with the skis. NRG 100 is a nice ski but not everyone agrees with it. I'd honestly look for a narrower ski like the Brahma (an 88mm Blizzard), a bit easier to ski and arguably better for technique development.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

I was thinking about getting something like the Nordica Firearrow 84 & Blizzard Bodacious over the next two seasons to have an 80mm-100mm-120mm, 3 ski quiver.  I do love the Brahmas though and was looking at the Brahmas & Nrgy 90s.  Right now I am skiing the K2 Recon Apache 181.

post #6 of 20

If you're serious about the Nordica Fire Arrow 84 EDT you might want to start looking for one as soon as the season ends or maybe sooner as it is being discontinued after this season.  Also be aware that the FA84EDT demands a very high level of skill.  It is basically a fat race ski and has a very small(tiny) sweet spot.  If you have the chops for it it will reward you with an exhilarating ride,  but if you don't you'll be picking yourself up off the snow a lot.  It has tremendous rebound, slalom like edge grip, lightning quick edge to edge and no speed limit.  On really hard days it's my first choice.  I haven't been on the replacement yet, but will be testing them out on March 1 at Big Sky.


Edited by mtcyclist - 2/6/16 at 9:50pm
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 

I was looking at the Nordica Firearrow 84 Pros not the EDTs.  And I would demo them before I bought them.  I would have no problem looking at their replacements or a similar model but was thinking more of next season for those 80mm skis to go with a 100mm ski this year.  Thoughts?

post #8 of 20

The FA84 Pro was discontinued 2 years ago, IIRC.  There might still be some new ones around but they won't be easy to find.  Personally I'd go for the FA80 Ti EVO.  I kept wanting Nordica to make a Fire Arrow 80 EDT but they never did and after this season there are no more EDT skis, except in the race segment.

 

I think 80mm. 100mm and something bigger makes sense.  Considering where you ski, I'd recommend you look at either the ON3P Billy Goat(114mm) or the ON3P Wrenegade 112.  The skis are made in Portland and are local favorites around Mount Hood which gets heavy dense snow like the Sierras.  The might be the best built ski on the market.  Billy Goat is my big ski.

post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 

Maybe it would be a better idea to get either the Nordica Nrgy 90 or Blizzard Brahmas this season and something fatter like a Blizzard Cochise or Soul 7 next season.

post #10 of 20
I was in the same boat as you and I ended up ordering the 187 Bonafides just a few days ago. I'm around the same size as you (6'4" 200lbs) and I haven't gotten on them yet so I won't be any help there... But I will say that the more I read and the more I talked with others it became clear that the Bonafides were right for me. The consensus is that the Bones are a bit stiffer and therefore better suited for people around 200lbs or more - especially at high speeds. Again, I haven't spent any time on them yet but I did my research and it seems like heavier riders swear by them.
post #11 of 20

I haven't tried any of the other skis mentioned in this thread, other than the Soul 7, but the Bonafide is very good on the groomed, as well as off piste. It would be an excellent one ski quiver, until you expand your collection. While you might want to add a narrower ski for groomers in the future, you might also decide it's not necessary. When going for a powder ski don't just look at the width. There are stiffer, moderately rockered, fairly stright skis like the Cochise, which are chargers, designed to be skied fast by strong skiers and power throught the crud; and softer, more rockered skis like the Soul 7, with a fairly low turning radius due to 5 point sidecut--quicker turning and more likely to skip over the crud than power through it. The question is whether you want your powder ski to be a wider version of your all mountain ski or a floatier, quicker, lighter ski--both kinds (and everything in between) are available in the same width. And I would definitely demo before you buy a ski as wide as the Bodacious--the wider you go the less versatile the ski, and it's a rare powder day at a resort where you don't need a fairly versatile ski. This year I'm seeing a lot more good skiers on skis in the mid 100's than 115 skis on powder days.

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 

Yes, I will have to demo them, but it sounds like the Blizzard Brahmas (180mm or 187mm?) this season and the Soul 7 (188mm?) next season might be a good 2 ski quiver for myself.

post #13 of 20

The Soul 7 might be a little soft for a big guy--I've demo'd them once and found them scary on the firm runouts. Could have been the tune of course. I know a lot of people like the ski. Definitely demo that one. Another ski to look at for that powder ski in the same category--turny rather than chargy-- would be the Atomic Automatic 109. I ski the 117--6'0 and 180 and get good grip when needed. I do find the width to be clunky on uneven snow--probably should have gone with the 109.

post #14 of 20
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The Soul 7 might be a little soft for a big guy

That's an understatement.
post #15 of 20
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The Soul 7 might be a little soft for a big guy--I've demo'd them once and found them scary on the firm runouts. Could have been the tune of course. I know a lot of people like the ski. Definitely demo that one. Another ski to look at for that powder ski in the same category--turny rather than chargy-- would be the Atomic Automatic 109. I ski the 117--6'0 and 180 and get good grip when needed. I do find the width to be clunky on uneven snow--probably should have gone with the 109.


I used a Soul 7 for a few days and it was a fun ski if I kept speeds medium to low and stayed centered on it but as soon as I increased speed in chopped up snow and firmer pistes forget it. The tip chatter was intense. In untracked powder it was ok but other skis are much better. In the steep firm terrain at lower speeds it held a much better edge than I though it would. In moguls it was very easy to use again at lower speeds and centered. Overall an easy to ski board that should work well for most intermediates that want to dabble in advanced terrain with control. Tried the Sin 7 and it was a worse ski for me (again easy to ski but it was even softer and less stable). Returned it within one hour. 

 

If you are like me who skis out west (Colorado) in-bounds and mostly stays in the Adavanced and Expert terrain all day which means moguls, crud, chowder, windblown, crusts, etc then there are MUCH better skis out there. I love the Moment Deathwish as my daily driver. Easy to ski and tips soft enough for any pow at the resort. Holds a great edge. The Patron is also a fav of mine. (im 6-2 180 and prefer wider skis that can turn, wider platform is more stable generally which is a plus at the resorts since they get skied out in a hurry)

 

Right now im not a fan of the mid width skis (90~100) that are designed with softer tips to handle powder but have pretty flat tails. They feel like what they are hybrids, not great off piste and not great on piste. I rather have an all mountain wide ski in the 108-115 range that is still fun in the groomers but can handle anything off piste and maybe a dedicated piste ski but that would be optional. 

post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 

I am looking at the a pair of 2017 Blizzard Brahmas 180 or 187 & a pair of Nordica Patron 185 or 193.  Those two should work best for me I think.  Can't wait to demo.

post #17 of 20
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I am looking at the a pair of 2017 Blizzard Brahmas 180 or 187 & a pair of Nordica Patron 185 or 193.  Those two should work best for me I think.  Can't wait to demo.

Before I forget, for reference I am the same height and weight as you...

 

You have narrowed it down to some VERY different skis.  Of the two you mention above, I think you will find the Brahmas much more versatile.  The Brahma and Bonafide also happen to be skis that appeal to a wide range of skiers.  A lot of race coaches ski Brahmas and yet you see an equal number of intermediates on both the Brahma and the Bonafide.  

 

The Patron is a hit or miss ski.  It has a more centered mounting point and wants to be skied with a very centered stance.  Some people love it.  I am a big Nordica fan but hated this ski.  I think if you are getting back into skiing this is too much of a niche ski.  If you go Nordica, the Enforcer or NRGy are going to much more versatile.  I'd also note that Nordicas run longer than most skis so the 185 should be just fine in any of the Nordicas.

 

If I had to narrow it down, I'd get the 180 Bonafide or the 185 Enforcer.  Either ski should be solid in any conditions.

post #18 of 20

185 Enforcer is similar to a 187 Bonafide. 

post #19 of 20
I'm skiing the Nordica NRGy 90s and really like them. If the Brahma is too stiff for you, I'd check out the NRGy line.
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 

I settled on a pair of 2016 Nordica Nrgy 90 185s. Every run I take on them I love them more and more.

 

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