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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

I want to add a new ski.

1. Ski mostly in the east. Poconos, Catskills, etc.

2. Primarily groomers.

3. 5'6" 155 lbs

4. Advanced Intermediate?

 

I currently have the Blizzard Magnum 7.6 @ 163, Kastle MX78 @ 160, and Kastle BMX 98 @ 168. I'm looking for a ski to go between the MX78 and BMX98. I'm thinking 88mm under foot. I'm leaning towards Blizzard Brahma, Elan Amphibio 88, Head Monster 88, or Kastle FX84. I need this ski for typical northeast groomed slopes after some traffic. Length recommendations will be much appreciated.

 

Thank you.

post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by skibugged View Post
 I need this ski for typical northeast groomed slopes after some traffic.

 

Then what you really need is an ice skate.   Or really, a narrow waisted carver.

post #3 of 18

the Volkl  Kendo has great edge hold, one of the many reasons I'm a Volkl guy.

post #4 of 18

Add the Fischer Motive 86 to your list.  Its my daily driver in VT and handles just about everything I can throw at it.

post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by njdiver85 View Post
 

 

Then what you really need is an ice skate.   Or really, a narrow waisted carver.

I agree.  You already have overlap in your current skis.  Do you really use them all?  A recreational SL race ski or a race carver would be where I would be looking.  You can actually enjoy the conditions we've been seeing this year in the east.

post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by JimH View Post
 

I agree.  You already have overlap in your current skis.  Do you really use them all?  A recreational SL race ski or a race carver would be where I would be looking.  You can actually enjoy the conditions we've been seeing this year in the east.

Something like a Fischer Progressor F18 might fit that bill.

post #7 of 18

I've got the Brahmas and ski in the east.  They perform spectacularly in wide variety of conditions, including ice.  Note that they are changing the construction for the 2016/2017 model, so you could consider waiting for that one if money isn't an issue.

post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by JimH View Post

I agree.  You already have overlap in your current skis.  Do you really use them all?  A recreational SL race ski or a race carver would be where I would be looking.  You can actually enjoy the conditions we've been seeing this year in the east.

+1, I've been on my 67 mm ski the entire season and saw no need to bring out my 80 mm. Buy skis for what you are skiing, not what you want to ski.
post #9 of 18

I used brahmas at Mt Snow and thought they were so so.  I recently used Bonafides at Squaw Valley and loved them.  Of course the terrain was night and day but still, I felt the Bonafides performed much better overall in similar conditions.  On groomers and icier conditions, they were similar.  Got a little more chatter on the bonafides and I remember the brahmas carving a little better with less power and smaller turn radius.  They reasonI would get Bonafides over the Brahmas because they were SO much better in every other condition from crud, variable, to powder and also very fast.  

 

Considering where you ski and the other skis in your quiver, not sure you need a 100mm ski but if it was between the Brahma and Bonafide, I know my pick.  I currently use Salomon Enduro 800 which handle the ice of catskills and VT just fine.  I'm considering the Bonafides for my powder day/west coast/europe trips, although I usually demo/rent when I fly.  

 

BTW for east coast, I REALLY enjoyed and recommend the Dynstar Powertrack 89.  Such a fun, playful, versatile ski.  Strongly recommend you try it.  Even can handle some light powder and trees pretty well.

post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by skibugged View Post
 

I want to add a new ski.

1. Ski mostly in the east. Poconos, Catskills, etc.

2. Primarily groomers.

3. 5'6" 155 lbs

4. Advanced Intermediate?

 

I currently have the Blizzard Magnum 7.6 @ 163, Kastle MX78 @ 160, and Kastle BMX 98 @ 168. I'm looking for a ski to go between the MX78 and BMX98. I'm thinking 88mm under foot. I'm leaning towards Blizzard Brahma, Elan Amphibio 88, Head Monster 88, or Kastle FX84. I need this ski for typical northeast groomed slopes after some traffic. Length recommendations will be much appreciated.

 

Thank you.


For the places you ski, the skis you own seem OK, although the MX78's are too short and you have massive redundancy. First, could you explain what it is about these that aren't taking care of business, or which you would replace? "After traffic" can mean a lot of things; most folks would use their MX78's for that unless it's really soft, in which case the BMX's come out. 

 

That said, at your size, and where you ski, I'd recommend you look at some other skis besides the one's you mention. Fischer makes some really nice do-all skis, Motives, that would work nicely for a lighter skier, either at 86 mm or 96, and Scott's The Ski would be a really nice approach to bumps and trees on softer days. Both are good in crud. The FX84 is a great ski, literally, but isn't that different from the MX78 to justify owning both. (Of course it's also hard to justify both the Magnum and the MX, but that's another issue.) 

 

So any way you cut it, you have serious overlap unless you sell something. Personally, I'd lose the short 78's and get the FX's. Or lose the BMX's and get The Ski. 

post #11 of 18

Speaking as someone who has spent some time skiing the Poconos, "after traffic" means icy. You already have two skis to handle that, and those two skis are pretty redundant to begin with. You don't really need a ski that's wider for the skiing you're doing. In all reality, an intermediate groomer skier doesn't need 4 sets of skis for any reason. 

 

I'm going to throw something out there, and I may be dead wrong about this. However, I've seen the symptoms often enough, so I want to give this caution in case my suspicions are accurate. Another ski is not going to make you a better skier. There's nothing magical in any pair of skis that is going to automatically improve your technique. Rather than purchasing another ski, I'd suggest using that money to invest in some quality private lessons with a level 2 or 3 instructor. Or, if you're really set on buying gear, what's your boot situation? Your money would almost certainly be better served being put into boots than into an 88 waisted ski you don't really need. 

post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thank you for you input. All great advice and well taken. I'm giving away the Magnums after this season and I was planning to keep the MX 78 and BMX 98. I got the BMX for ski trips to Colorado. I like the MX78 but I feel I have to be very careful with these skis. I love it when the surface is fairly even. But in the evening with bumps, ice, low light, and tired legs, I want to ski cautiously and a little relaxed. I have problems when the slope are icy on some areas then piles of soft snow in others. I was hoping something in between would be a nice balance. This is more of a "want" than a "need". I am set with my boots. I took several lessons last season and will take a few more this season.

 

I stopped by the local store and they have some skis to demo. I saw Volkl Kendo, Rossi E88, and others I did not recognize. I can demo three for 50. I think that is probably best. It's possible that I will realize I don't need another ski after the demo. :-)

 

Thanks everyone.

post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 

Update: Beyond had it right. The problem I had was the length of the skis. I got to demo the Volkl Kendo @ 170 and RTM 81 @ 170 this weekend in horrible conditions.The extra length provided good stability in these conditions. I think I can replace two pairs I have with one ski between 80-90 underfoot and around 170cm long.

I think any of the previous recommendations in the right length would work. Hopefully, this info would help others in a similar situation.

post #14 of 18

Get on the Volkl RTM 84's, Blizzard iRally, and the Blizzard Latigo

post #15 of 18

Before spending your hard earned dollars, try a 68 to 72mm underfoot carver with a couple layers of metal.  You will be shocked at the control and G's you can pull on a rock hard groomer.  In Michigan I spent most of the season on carvers or race skis, my Brahmas and wider collected dust except for a bohemia trip.

 

One narrow (67-72), one mid (80-88mm) and one 100mm+ ski works great and covers all the bases.

post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by trailtrimmer View Post
 

Before spending your hard earned dollars, try a 68 to 72mm underfoot carver with a couple layers of metal.  You will be shocked at the control and G's you can pull on a rock hard groomer.  In Michigan I spent most of the season on carvers or race skis, my Brahmas and wider collected dust except for a bohemia trip.

 

One narrow (67-72), one mid (80-88mm) and one 100mm+ ski works great and covers all the bases.

 

Agree.  And most of the time, even in a "normal" eastern season, the 100+ ski will collect dust.  If I had to choose, I'd pick the narrow carver over the powder ski for the east.  

post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by skibugged View Post
 

Update: Beyond had it right. The problem I had was the length of the skis. I got to demo the Volkl Kendo @ 170 and RTM 81 @ 170 this weekend in horrible conditions.The extra length provided good stability in these conditions. I think I can replace two pairs I have with one ski between 80-90 underfoot and around 170cm long.

I think any of the previous recommendations in the right length would work. Hopefully, this info would help others in a similar situation.


Keep the Kendo's sharp and they will keep you happy for many years, they have great edge hold on the firm surface. Mine keep me happy 90% of the time in VT. The only thing they won't do that a carver will is real short radius turns like a racer dose on SL ski. If you have good body position and can roll your ankles the Kendo's will hold on anything and make quick turns.

post #18 of 18

you should try the Kastle fx84's if you liked the Kendos.  

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