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Problems riding back seat in new langes

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Any idea why my Lange rx130 would have my riding more in the back seat then my previous salomons? Very weird and interesting.
post #2 of 8

the boot itself could be a bit more upright than your older salomons

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Current Lange boots have a more upright stance than other boots. This can be offset somewhat by keeping the "spoiler" on the back of the liner cuff. That moves your stance angle forward more than if it isn't there. 

 

I went from Dalbellos to a Lange RS 110, and I'm in the process of moving to an RX 130. Going from the Dalbello to the Lange, I definitely noticed the stance difference. You get used to it. 

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Yes. Salomon's are a very forward boot (lot of ramp, lot of forward lean), Langes are not. If you have a spectrum of upright to forward, Langes would be one extreme and Atomics the other. Salomon's are close to the Atomics. Everyone I know who got Langes from something else more forward struggled at first. Most ultimately decided they liked it, some couldn't get used to feeling like they were in the back seat and moved to a different brand.

 

Aside from flex (both stiffness and total travel), the ramp angle and cuff angle (also called shaft angle) are probably the biggest factors in how a boot feels. The Langes have a very flat ramp angle and a very upright cuff. They balance all this uprightness with a large amount of flex travel (they flex a long way with no hard end stop like some boots). Compared to Langes, Nordicas are a little more forward, Salomons a little more forward than the Nordicas. I think some Dalbellos are adjustable, but struck me as being pretty forward.

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RX130, isn't that a stiff boot ? How big are you ?

 

I'm 5'11" 195lbs ski the RX120 with one screw removed to soften it.

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A more upright boot will not make you ski in the back seat.

But, coming from a boot with more forward lean...

In your old boots, you were sticking your butt back because your knees were way forward.

So when you went to a more upright boot, you still kept your butt sticking back, so your weight was back.


You will get used to it and you will love the upright stance.
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Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post

A more upright boot will not make you ski in the back seat.

But, coming from a boot with more forward lean...

In your old boots, you were sticking your butt back because your knees were way forward.

This. ^^^^

 

Some boots that used to have more ramp and forward cuff angle have gotten more upright in recent years. I've had both Langes and Technicas from years ago in which my knee was out in front of my toes by the time my shin had engaged the tongue enough to pressure the tip of the ski. Result: Knees forward, butt back.

 

Now, with a pair of Nordica Dobermans professionally fitted, shimmed, tweaked, punched, ground, etc., I get to actually stand up and still drive the skis. I want to feel things happen before my knees are out in front of my toes. I want to be able drive the tips down over the top of a bump without feeling like I'm about to go over the handlebars. I want immediate response without having to move so far.  And so on.

 

It's a matter of personal preference. I prefer standing taller. Play with your new boots. Stand up, then flex your ankles and find where they start to work. Enjoy not having to work your quads so much.

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Thanks guys!
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