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Rich driving up Tahoe skiing costs

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Newspaper feature today about how ridiculous costs in all ski weekend dimensions have risen at the high end about Tahoe.

 

http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Skiers-giddily-paying-steep-prices-for-Tahoe-6797273.php?google_editors_picks=true

 

It is more than just the hi tech rich in the SF Bay Area going skiing.  The other ones really making money are the banks army of  real estate speculators, associated financials, and real estate corps who in bed with politicians are in a shark frenzy driving up housing, rental, and land costs making a killing off the rest of us.  By going after the newly hi tech rich they are devastating the working class.  The only reasonable choice for we peons hard core is via season passes.   Walk-up lift ticket skiers at the big resorts are being pillaged.

 

But it goes beyond Tahoe.  The title of the thread more properly should be "Rich and real estate frenzy driving up Tahoe Skiing costs".  Taken by county, the average rent in some of our SF Bay Area counties for all unit types looks like this:

 

San Francisco City & County: $3,057, up 9.5 percent.
Santa Clara County: $2,575, up 8.9 percent.
San Mateo County: $2,817, up 9.5 percent
Alameda County: $2,226, up 11.2 percent
Contra Costa County: $1,859, up 10.9 percent

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Typical, can't read the story unless you pay money....

 

 

How do lift ticket prices compare with say...going to a football game ? If you get there early you can ski all day. The game only last 60 minutes, of playing time.

 

Go bowling all day and see what it cost you. What Golfers pay for green fee's ?

 

Go buy a snowmobile, what's that cost ?

 

I guess a cheap sport is tennis, all you need is a racket and a public court.

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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
 

Typical, can't read the story unless you pay money....

 

Hmmm?  Not seeing that on my browser and I don't have a SF Chronicle account?

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To continue reading this story, you will need to be a digital subscriber to SFChronicle.com.

 

I see about two sentences, then the above statement.

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I read this article on the weekend and kinda had to smirk a bit..

 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/31/wentworth-golf-club-members-revolt-against-china-based-owner

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Ok, what the hell, I'll bite:

 

Solution's obvious. We'll tax the millionaires and billionaires. We'll get them to pay their fair share and subsidize the costs of a skiing  for the rest of us!

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Originally Posted by cks View Post
 

Ok, what the hell, I'll bite:

 

Solution's obvious. We'll tax the millionaires and billionaires. We'll get them to pay more than their fair share and subsidize the costs of a skiing  for the rest of us!

It's already in play with the substitution above?  How else do you justify a $135 walk-up day pass versus a less than $500 season pass.  

I think the millionaires and billionaires are flying to deer valley or vail/beaver creek on their private jets (and writing it off as a business expense to pass to shareholders) and not specifically to tahoe.  

It's the single trip Tourists and Visitors (internationals) that are getting ripped off.

 

If indeed are a hard working local, then you can scrap around for the tahoe 6pack, 2-for-1 promos, movie/ski festival free tickets and so on.  The deals are still there but you need to hustle and get off the couch if you want to be a ski bum.  

 

I don't think one shouldn't expect to be treated to be treated the same as the millionaire willing to pay more for the same product with zero additional work just because one is a "local".   

 

Wait, you still can, the passes.  Let's talk about the the tahoe season passes.  The season pass is not just a throwaway option, that nobody can use or some obscure undesirable option.  It's a HUUUUGE exception to the pricing that they are still so cheap, so should be expected that you're forced to choose it.  We aren't paying what should be the market rate of $1000 or $1500 for passes.  

 

Otherwise, it's like saying, there's no reasonable way for the the common guy to affordable fly to new york spur of the moment walking up to the airport counter.  The only reasonable way is to book a coach ticket at least 2 weeks prior on the internet, and who flies coach.   That's what we all have to do...

 

 

So  there is a market change, but the time for complaint is only when the prices for passes begin their inevitable climb to market rate.  Not now, but perhaps within in the next decade?  Enjoy while we still can.


Edited by raytseng - 2/1/16 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by cks View Post
 

Ok, what the hell, I'll bite:

 

Solution's obvious. We'll tax the millionaires and billionaires. We'll get them to pay their fair share and subsidize the costs of a skiing  for the rest of us!


You'll never be elected president on THAT platform!  :D

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