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Looking for feedback on the Elan Amphibio 88 XTI Fusion vs the K2 Ikonic 80TI

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I am looking at purchasing either the Elan Amphibio 88 XTI Fusion or the K2 Ikonic 80TI.

 

Originally I was looking to buy the K2 Rictor 82 XTI, only to find out K2 had dropped it from their line, and had replaced it with the Ikonic, their go everywhere, Eastern ski.  I was told that the Ikonic is much like the Rictor, only on steroids.

 

While I was shopping I was shown the Amphibio, Elan’s go anywhere, short turn & long turn, Eastern ski.

I find the whole camber/rocker feature on the same ski very intriguing but wonder if it would become something of a chore after a while, having to remember which ski is on which foot, and which edge is where, etc.

 

As for my skiing, I live and ski in the East, ski no more than 20 days a year. Like short steep runs, making way too many turns on the way down.  I should also mention that I have had a love affair with K2, first starting with their original Extreme back in the late 80’s, and moving through the various models over the last 30 years, and am still riding an old pair of Apache Recons. 

 

Any input or suggestions would be very much appreciated.  Cheers, Jim

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I am looking at purchasing either the Elan Amphibio 88 XTI Fusion or the K2 Ikonic 80TI.

 

Originally I was looking to buy the K2 Rictor 82 XTI, only to find out K2 had dropped it from their line, and had replaced it with the Ikonic, their go everywhere, Eastern ski.  I was told that the Ikonic is much like the Rictor, only on steroids.

 

While I was shopping I was shown the Amphibio, Elan’s go anywhere, short turn & long turn, Eastern ski.

I find the whole camber/rocker feature on the same ski very intriguing but wonder if it would become something of a chore after a while, having to remember which ski is on which foot, and which edge is where, etc.

 

As for my skiing, I live and ski in the East, ski no more than 20 days a year. Like short steep runs, making way too many turns on the way down.  I should also mention that I have had a love affair with K2, first starting with their original Extreme back in the late 80’s, and moving through the various models over the last 30 years, and am still riding an old pair of Apache Recons. 

 

Any input or suggestions would be very much appreciated.  Cheers, Jim

 

 

I have skied both: the IKonic seemed very stout, stiffer than almost any ski I tried last year, like it had 3 sheets of metal.  Not a fan, didn't feel versatile whatsoever.  

 

The Amphibio had that great middle of the road flex that gave it nice energy on the groomers, versatility off-piste, the ability to make multiple turns shapes. It was one of my favorites in that category.  

 

Also check out the Stockli Stormrider 88 and the Scale Delta. Both of which are superb skis and would not disappoint. I also like the Monster 88ti from Head: great middle of the road flex, nice responsive tip that doesn't hang up 

 

If you are in the market for the Stockli or the Head, give us a call, we offer discounts to Epicski customers.  I really like the Elan but am not a dealer; they might be tough to find. 

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I haven't been on the the Ikonic 80TI but I have the 85, and don't find the 85 to be overly stiff at all (5'10", 180 lbs., advanced).  

 

Have not been on the Elan but can offer my opinion on the K2's.

 

I have the Recons and the Ikonic 85's and have had a few days on the Rictors, all in 177.  Ikonics are a different ski & more ski than the Recons  -- lighter, quicker, snappier, more umpf, still forgiving and quiet.  Rictor is more like Recon than Ikonic.  But the Rictor felt heavier, ponderous, damp to the point of dead, could be made to be quick but not its forte.  Vs. the Rictor, the Ikonic is again totally more fun, quicker, livelier, solid at speed and in junk, with some of the K2 dampness but not too much -- easy but with no apparent top end to its performance range.  I'm also a K2 fan (once you get past the typically overbeveled factory tune) dating back way before the Extremes, and the Ikonics rank at or near the top based on my experience of a few decades.  I suspect the 80TI's would be about the same and if they had been available I probably would have gotten them vs. the 85's as my hard snow ski.  As it turns out the 85's are just fine with hard snow a maybe a bit more versatile.

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Depends what type of skier you are and what type of skiing you like.

One of the points about rockered tips is that they make it easier to initiate a turn (by effectively reducing the contact length of the outside and inside edges). This makes it easier for people to turn and at the same time de-skills the skier.

A traditionally cambered ski has tip-to-tail edge contact. It requires a lot more skill to turn, but is great for carving turns.

I have an Elan frontside carver that is traditionally cambered and just love the way it carves. I also have a pair of all mountain rocketed Elans. There is a difference in the way each ski carves.

Amphibio combines both tradional camber (inside edge) with rocker (outside edge). As such, it is the only true all mountain technology/ski out there.

No I dont work for Elan, but they are a truly innovative company.
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