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post #31 of 58
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"mini" is not the word I'd use for it. It was more of a big semi-fixed location gathering.... It certainly drew numbers in at least the same scale of many of the Gatherings. I believe I attended one in spring '08 and IIRC there was at least one after that.

 

The LGCs sort of caused Gathering eyes to wonder elsewhere since spring in CO was always wort of a given back then.

 

 

There were four LGC events with the last one the first two weeks of April 2008 which you attended.  I made it to the 2nd, 3rd and last one.  The CO crew that showed up really went the extra mile in hooking people up with rides, ticket discounts etc...

 

Good times and Uncle Louie (including himself) always had willing guides to show the various places off.

post #32 of 58
Thread Starter 

Does anybody want to make a case for one of the other possibilities before we all get caught up in this year's event?

post #33 of 58

Can we just throw out other places we'd just really like to visit? Lake Louise, Whistler, Mammoth, Steamboat? Big White/Sun Peaks/Silver Star/other western Canadian resorts?

post #34 of 58
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Can we just throw out other places we'd just really like to visit? Lake Louise, Whistler, Mammoth, Steamboat? Big White/Sun Peaks/Silver Star/other western Canadian resorts?

Sure, but that isn't useful.

We want places that make sense for a Gathering, and a story of why it does.

post #35 of 58
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Originally Posted by Gathermeister View Post
 

Sure, but that isn't useful.

We want places that make sense for a Gathering, and a story of why it does.

 

Fair enough. But I don't know if those places would make sense ... kinda new at this Gathering thing. :) Perhaps someone else will wind up wanting to make a case for one.

post #36 of 58
As much as I'd like to echo the Taos sentiments, I wouldn't want to commit to it a year in advance and risk a La Nina (even if the correlation is mild)

Opportunistically, weak loonie, says Canadian resort...

Whistler
-Accessible via YVR or SEA
-SEA has extremely competitive airfare given the market share fight delta and Alaska are engaged in.
-some red-eye flights are available for east coasters who have to get back in the office
-Good late season as has been requested by others
-MCP
-Olympic heritage
-ample terrain

While currencies can fluctuate, I don't expect to be hearing calls for loonie parity any time soon making the trip more affordable than it has been in years.
post #37 of 58

Whistler is certainly interesting. Any idea who might guide / gathermeister?

post #38 of 58

At my first Gathering in 2011 in Summit County, I was under the impression that there had been a few Gatherings there before.  Now I know it was semantics under Let's Go Colorado.

 

My impression has been that there was a tight rotation of Utah, Jackson, Tahoe and Summit/Vail due to mountain and cost being the priority considerations.

 

I applaud the branching out to Big Sky and Aspen.   I have also endorsed Taos as long as it's in March (but presumably we should also exclude Texas spring break week).

 

From a ski perspective I agree with Dryheat above that this group really needs to have an event at Whistler.  I've been skiing in Canada nearly every year since 1997.  It was dirt cheap with the exchange rate in the late 1990's.  It's not quite at that level now but it's pretty good and far better than it has been for some time. 

 

Taos averages 114% in strong El Nino months and 91% in strong La Nina months.

 

Whistler averages 103% in strong El Nino months and 117% in strong La Nina months. Whistler's snow track record is one of the most consistent anywhere. There is really no time of the season that should be avoided.  The early season track record is one of the best, though the visibility in Dec./Jan. is often not great and the closing hours can be as early as 3PM.   I've been there 3x in April, including the poor season in 2015, and the high alpine conditions have always been good. So timing for Whistler can be based upon when we can get the best deals.

 

So I favor both Taos and Whistler, though maybe the exchange rate situation argues for doing Whistler sooner rather than later.  Some people may have to get passports, but since the Gathering site is chosen so far in advance, I don't see that as an obstacle.


Edited by Tony Crocker - 2/8/16 at 8:47am
post #39 of 58

OK I hardly slept last night, this vote is weighing heavy on me. SO TAOS it is. I assume that Grumpy dude will vote for it.

See you all tomorrow

 

Boot

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post #41 of 58
I think it's time for a caucus!!!!
post #42 of 58

So how did the vote go?

post #43 of 58
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So how did the vote go?

 

Whistler won by a landslide. First week of March (before any Spring breaks start.)

post #44 of 58

I'm not sure if I should reveal the identity of the Gathermeister except to say that it is not me.

 

I voted for Taos but oddly King Grump who was the Taos presenter, voted for Whistler. Suffice it to say that the Gathermeister with the help of a very cheap CDN dollar, did a very good sales job.

 

For anyone looking for some other near to Whistler resorts to check out, there is Mt. Baker near Bellingham, Sun Peaks, near Kamloops B.C. is 5.5 hours from Whistler via the back way on highway 99 north thru Pemberton to Lillooet (a very scenic mountain drive). Another 3 hours or so gets you to Revelstoke.

post #45 of 58

FWIW the strong El Nino this winter raises the odds of a strong La Nina next winter per Larry Schick and some other meteorologists.  So if people want to extend a Whistler trip into nearby regions like the Okanagan or the Washington Cascades, it might be a good year to do that.

 

The odds we will attend are quite good as I'm always in interior B.C. third weekend of February for my reservation at Mustang Snowcat.

 

Is the Gathering the week of Feb. 25 - Mar. 4 or Mar. 4-11?

post #46 of 58

No specific dates were announced, just that it would be first week of March, making sure to be prior to the start of Spring school breaks.

post #47 of 58

The Gathermeister also said that it would probably not be mid week to mid week, but rather weekend to weekend.

post #48 of 58

The earlier week is better for our schedule but we would likely attend at least the first half of the later week.

Quote = DanoT:
making sure to be prior to the start of Spring school breaks.

Ontario has March 13-17 spring break

Alberta has the last week of March

British Columbia is very friendly to skiing families. Several districts I checked get the last TWO weeks of March for spring break.

In Washington State I found 2 school districts with first week of April spring break

 

In other spring break threads it has become clear that spring break effects are regional.  I think the above examples are the only ones material to Whistler, and the B.C. weeks the only ones with a major impact.


Edited by Tony Crocker - 2/7/16 at 12:56pm
post #49 of 58
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So how did the vote go?

 

Whistler won by a landslide. First week of March (before any Spring breaks start.)

This is still the Aspen Gathermeister -- I will pass the torch when the after-action discussion dies out.

 

There were nominations for Taos, Whistler, and Telluride with well-thought-out, eloquent presentations that included all the factors I described in the notice, including approximate dates.  I think any of the three would be a great venue.  There has been some speculation that Telluride might manage to join the Mountain Collective in a future year --  I think it would be a very strong contender if that happened. (There was also a pro-forma nomination of Stowe.)

 

I liked the way the process evolved.  We ate, drank, and socialized for awhile before the meeting started.  Each potential Gathermeister (PG) spoke for ten to fifteen minutes and then answered questions.  Then we drank, circulated, and caucused for fifteen minutes.   And after that, each PG gave a five minute closing argument and we voted in two rounds, a preliminary and a runoff.

 

There were 32 members present.  The votes were:

 

Area         Preliminary           Runoff

Taos             7                         4

Whistler      21                       26

Telluride       2                         -               

Stowe           0                         -

Abstain         2                         2

 

The timing for Whistler is approximately the first week of March, to be fine tuned after checking the Canadian school break week dates.  This is late enough to let most industry people participate after their season starts to wind down.

 

I will let the new Gathermeister decide whether to be anonymous or not.

 

I was very happy with the vote process.  We had good attendance, 3 solid proposals, a lot of enthusiasm, and a nearly unanimous final result.

post #50 of 58
Thread Starter 

One more thought -- Whistler might be a good place to try again for a "lesson day."  I think all the moving around to cover 3 mountains with only 2 days at each made it much harder for the idea to gain traction.

post #51 of 58
Thread Starter 

Passing of the Torch

 

I have passed the Gathermeister account to the 2017 Whistler Gathermeister through a private message.

Good luck, and have fun.  I'm sure it will be a great event.

 

A few "at" s to make sure the relevant people see this:

@tylrwnzl

@TheRusty

@marznc

post #52 of 58
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Originally Posted by Gathermeister View Post
 

One more thought -- Whistler might be a good place to try again for a "lesson day."  I think all the moving around to cover 3 mountains with only 2 days at each made it much harder for the idea to gain traction.

 

Whistler offers fixed priced all-day and half-day privates for up to 4 people... from their website :

 

 

Price: Full Day $789 for individual or create your own private group/family up to 4 people with similar ability and sport for the same price.
Price: Half Day $559 for individual or create your own private group/family up to 4 people with similar ability and sport for the same price.

 

Might be a good option if they still offer it next year, if there're no other Gathering specials.

post #53 of 58
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Originally Posted by Gathermeister View Post
 

Passing of the Torch

 

I have passed the Gathermeister account to the 2017 Whistler Gathermeister through a private message.

Good luck, and have fun.  I'm sure it will be a great event.

 

A few "at" s to make sure the relevant people see this:

@tylrwnzl

@TheRusty

@marznc

 

Thanks for the heads up, was literally just about to send a message to inquire who the new gathermeister was. 

post #54 of 58
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Originally Posted by Gathermeister View Post
 

Passing of the Torch

 

I have passed the Gathermeister account to the 2017 Whistler Gathermeister through a private message.

Good luck, and have fun.  I'm sure it will be a great event.

 

 

The king is  dead, long live the king! :yahoo:

post #55 of 58
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Originally Posted by Gathermeister View Post
 

One more thought -- Whistler might be a good place to try again for a "lesson day."  I think all the moving around to cover 3 mountains with only 2 days at each made it much harder for the idea to gain traction.


I'll give a plug to Extremely Canadian, which is the rare independent guiding/coaching service in North America. 

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/2005/09/01/extremely-whistler-extremely-canadian/

Liz and I had 2 days with Extremely Canadian last April:

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=11790

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=11791

 

They specialize in teaching how to ski steep terrain and will show you places that you might have difficulty finding on your own.  Clinics are for 2 days, usually one on each mountain, though they will modify that plan depending upon snow conditions.

http://www.extremelycanadian.com/group-clinics.html

post #56 of 58

Good plug Tony, for a truly unique experience at Whistler I think Extremely Canadian is a good thing to look into.  They have have some great out back and steep classes.

post #57 of 58

Whistler/Blackcomb rocks!

 

Don't need Extremely Canadien to have the fun, but I've heard good things about it.

 

I skied W/B five years in the 90's, and had a blast each time. Looking fwd to next year, Just point em down.

post #58 of 58

I'm excited.  Maybe we should go this year and next year.

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