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How long do your liners last before they pack out?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

I've had my Atomic Livefits for about 2+ yrs.  I have about 60 days in them.  I feel my heel starting to come out of the heel pocket.  Are they packed out? Time for new liners?

post #2 of 15

Try any of the many heel hold-down devices.

http://www.tognar.com/boot_heater_warmer_fitting_dryer_canting_dryers_ski_snowboard.html

 

Or, try a tongue shim that thickens the tongue and holds the foot down.  Or a Bontex shim under the whole footbed to raise your foot 1/6" into the shell if you have room.  You can experiment with materials around the house.  Find what works, then buy professional products that are more durable.

post #3 of 15

I have been getting about 150 days out of my boots, even more if I can find a sock that is ever so slightly thicker as my boots age.  The heel hold down devices can work.  You may want to post in the boot forum, those guys know their stuff.  60 days is too soon. Sounds like boots may have started off a bit on the roomy side.  Pete

post #4 of 15
Last pair of boots/liners (and the only pair I ever tracked) had 462 days on them. Current pair is at 172 days. Still pups. :-) And in fact as I took them off today, I was thinking they still feel perfect.
post #5 of 15
The atomic live fit is a very wide boot. Were you fit by a boot fitter that knew what he was doing? Unless you have a very wide foot, it is no wonder that you are loose in them.
post #6 of 15
My Dalbello's have 300 days @ 4 hours/day. Still fit like a glove due to dynalink system. Only ever worn thin elastomeric sport sock.
post #7 of 15

150-200 days, depending on the liner. If you get a shell that's too big, the liner packs out faster. 

post #8 of 15

Hi,

 

It all depends on how you like the fit, how picky you are and how hard you ski.

 

Currently I have lange, professionally fitted by a very well respected boot fitter with a very tight shell fit, as tight as he was prepared to go. At the time I contemplated putting an aftermarket liner in, but thought I'd go with the standard liner. Days 1-5 felt a bit tight, but good, days 5-15 perfect, by day 25 felt completely packed out to me. Way too much room and movement for me. However, I like a very tight fit with no movement at all. Put in a zip fit and has been good for another 50 days so far.

 

My last boot was the same, but put in an intuition and that packed out after around 50 days.

 

Also I find the shell starts to go after around 100 days, inconsistent flex, reduced stiffness etc

 

Thats me though, I am very demanding on the boot fit and tightness. Others can go hundreds of days without a problem.

 

One thing. Everytime I have boot and lining that I think has gone off a bit and change it never ceases to amaze me how much better the new combination is. The old one goes off so gradually you don't realise how bad it is until you change.

 

To the OP I would highly recommend going to a zip fit, or if not some form of intuition liner. They are much better than factory. The factory liners are largely designed to feel good in the shop and generate sales for the average customer.

post #9 of 15

My liners never wear out around that really really tight spot on the biggest part of my foot that forces me to go sockless or get numb toes, but the area around the heel seems to wear out in about 50 (noticeable) to 100 (worn) days.  (except for my custom foam boots which are fine)

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 

eric s:  I do have a wide foot.  they feel fine across the toe box, it's only recently that I feel the heel rising from the pocket. 

 

i'll try the other suggestions and see how it goes, thx.

post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Last pair of boots/liners (and the only pair I ever tracked) had 462 days on them. Current pair is at 172 days. 

Is there an app for that?

 

 

Liners start to pack out the first day you ski them, continue to pack out until you have to tweak them--pads, tighter buckles--keep packing out until you need a new liner. It's a gradual thing and depends on the liner, the boot fit, you're skiing style (particularly with heel lift) and how demanding you are. About 200 days on my Intuitions and they're still fine. (And they can be be remolded a couple of times.) 

post #12 of 15
They started out so tight I couldn't wait to get them off my feet and were still that tight 30 days later. They got bearable around 70. The next season I decided to have them punched in one area because I finally decided they were not going to pack there. I'd been resisting before that.

This year (third season), I might have to tighten the buckles a notch once my feet start conforming to the boots. Since I'm close to barefoot all summer it takes a while before the feet start fitting the boots again.
post #13 of 15
Packed out liners should not make a heel rise that would be a poor fitting boot.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post

Packed out liners should not make a heel rise that would be a poor fitting boot.

Huh?

post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
 
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post

Packed out liners should not make a heel rise.  That would be a poor fitting boot.

Huh?

Try it that way instead. ^^^

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