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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Ok, so it's been a good 13 years since I've been in here -time flies! smile.gif
I'm trying to get my girlfriend of three years hooked on skiing. We're 29 and 30. For the duration of our relationship I've been injured quite a bit and haven't got out much. This season however, I'm hoping to make up for it! Skied just a few days on groomers with gf last season due to my knee. She's a novice but likes it she says. For those few days I saw definite improvement in terms of technique after giving her a bit of instruction. Stopped turning/sliding with her whole body so much. She's athletic, and loves the outdoors, which helps.

Anyone in here have any experience in making their significant other a powder junkie? I want nothing more in this world than for us to do lines together tongue.gif This is important in regards to the future I think. Don't want to have a discussion of whether or not to go shred!
But what to do/not to do in terms of having her progress as quick as possible and making skiing an overall positive experience? Lessons? Teach her?
Is skiing as a primary concern a mindset that can be taught at all, or are we born this way? biggrin.gif
Edited by snow_axe - 1/13/16 at 8:08am
post #2 of 21
1. Don't teach her yourself. I cannot stress this enough. Pay for lessons for
her. After lessons don't push her to do harder stuff than she may be ready for.

2. Go to good places in good weather. Don't insist on dragging her out of bed at 5 am to drive 4 hours to ski in the rain or on ice. Keep it fun. Take a trip to someplace that's a real ski resort, with great scenery and other stuff to do if she wants to take a break.

Sounds like you're off to a good start-good luck!

ETA: I'd drop the "progress as fast as possible" agenda. She may never be as good as you. It's okay. My husband is better than me; we ski together when he's feeling mellow, but we ski apart a lot too, and it's okay. It's still fun, we meet for lunch, compare notes, he takes me to places he thinks I might like, etc.
Edited by Christy319 - 1/13/16 at 9:08am
post #3 of 21

^^^

I agree 100% on both points.

post #4 of 21

^ Yes, and especially #2 IMO -- lessons or no, it needs to be fun for her to keep coming back. Hardcore enthusiasts put up with a lot of things in the name of skiing that "normal" people consider insane, and we still have fun. Don't assume that your significant other will feel the same!

post #5 of 21
1) ski boots that fit and keep her feet warm.
2) warm clothes
3) let her pick where you ski.
4) lessons
post #6 of 21

Starting Saturday I'm engaged in the same project with my wife, a never ever about your age. Here's how I'm approaching it:

 

1. Lessen the pressure. We're borrowing clothes from my cousin's wife who's similar body, using language like "if you end up liking it, we could..." Not using language that indicates I think she needs to be very good at all. And if she doesn't like it, it's no big deal. 

 

2. Introducing ideas of skiing/snowboarding friends we could do a group trip with, priming her to want to enjoy it even more. Her best friend loves to snowboard, and it'd be great thing to do with her.

 

3. Lessons. She's out with me for 4 days, 3 of those in ski school, which is offered as a package and is a (in Vail Resorts terms) a very good deal. Teaching her myself is a fool's errand as I'm no pro and it'll just make her feel like I'm criticizing her.

 

4. Comfortable resort. We're doing Beaver Creek in part because that's where we have hotel points, but also because everything else around it is easy. Not having to worry about where to eat, driving, etc. is big. The fewer added stresses, the more she can focus on how good it feels to make a lot of progress in her lessons, feel the cool air against her cheeks, and hear the snow's schhtttt sound. I've also heard their ski school is good, and she won't need a huge mountain.

 

5. Making it not just about skiing. My first instinct is to be first on the lift, eat early or late to avoid crowds, come in fairly late, then crash at about 8:30pm. But adding some nice dinner reservations, apre ski stuff, etc. will hopefully make her enjoy the general experience around skiing.

 

6. Going during a holiday from work. Of course "crowds" don't sound appealing, but I suspect allowing her not to worry about work as much will be good for avoiding stress and crowds won't matter as much if she's in ski school learning during the crowded times.

 

7. Last, I'm sometimes a bit of a whiner in the moment by my nature. Even on good days I'll bitch about my feet hurting, having to take a shuttle to get dinner, it being too hot/windy/cold/groups splitting into the singles line (just kidding). I make no promises, but I'll try my damnedest to be optimistic and positive about my own experiences. Nothing sets the mood like a negative nancy.

post #7 of 21

If she isn't into it, don't force it and don't dump her for it.

post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by zoraster View Post
 

Starting Saturday I'm engaged in the same project with my wife, a never ever about your age. Here's how I'm approaching it:

 

1. Lessen the pressure. We're borrowing clothes from my cousin's wife who's similar body, using language like "if you end up liking it, we could..." Not using language that indicates I think she needs to be very good at all. And if she doesn't like it, it's no big deal. 

 

2. Introducing ideas of skiing/snowboarding friends we could do a group trip with, priming her to want to enjoy it even more. Her best friend loves to snowboard, and it'd be great thing to do with her.

 

3. Lessons. She's out with me for 4 days, 3 of those in ski school, which is offered as a package and is a (in Vail Resorts terms) a very good deal. Teaching her myself is a fool's errand as I'm no pro and it'll just make her feel like I'm criticizing her.

 

4. Comfortable resort. We're doing Beaver Creek in part because that's where we have hotel points, but also because everything else around it is easy. Not having to worry about where to eat, driving, etc. is big. The fewer added stresses, the more she can focus on how good it feels to make a lot of progress in her lessons, feel the cool air against her cheeks, and hear the snow's schhtttt sound. I've also heard their ski school is good, and she won't need a huge mountain.

 

5. Making it not just about skiing. My first instinct is to be first on the lift, eat early or late to avoid crowds, come in fairly late, then crash at about 8:30pm. But adding some nice dinner reservations, apre ski stuff, etc. will hopefully make her enjoy the general experience around skiing.

 

6. Going during a holiday from work. Of course "crowds" don't sound appealing, but I suspect allowing her not to worry about work as much will be good for avoiding stress and crowds won't matter as much if she's in ski school learning during the crowded times.

 

7. Last, I'm sometimes a bit of a whiner in the moment by my nature. Even on good days I'll bitch about my feet hurting, having to take a shuttle to get dinner, it being too hot/windy/cold/groups splitting into the singles line (just kidding). I make no promises, but I'll try my damnedest to be optimistic and positive about my own experiences. Nothing sets the mood like a negative nancy.

 

Holy cow! That last time I put that much thought and effort into convincing a woman to do something, it certainly wasn't to go skiing.

post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by Rich666 View Post
 

 

Holy cow! That last time I put that much thought and effort into convincing a woman to do something, it certainly wasn't to go skiing.

 

Now that I don't spend much time convincing women to sleep with me, my deep seated need to over analyze things to the point of causing anxiety has to find new and more pathetic fields to plow. 

post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by zoraster View Post
 

 

Now that I don't spend much time convincing women to sleep with me, my deep seated need to over analyze things to the point of causing anxiety has to find new and more pathetic fields to plow. 

All joking aside, including your advice on "getting a hotel room to do Beaver Creek", I do think it is a reasonably warranted plan as I've heard obtaining goals with women get trickier over time with the same one.

post #11 of 21

This thread should be titled "how to ruin a good pow day"

post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by Rich666 View Post
 

All joking aside, including your advice on "getting a hotel room to do Beaver Creek", I do think it is a reasonably warranted plan as I've heard obtaining goals with women get trickier over time with the same one.

 

I offer no advice. Merely a catalog of my own potential factors of failure. 

 

Though I feel no apprehension about getting a hotel in BC. Cost to me is roughly 100 bucks for 5 nights with hotel points.

post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by snow_axe View Post

Ok, so it's been a good 13 years since I've been in here -time flies! smile.gif
I'm trying to get my girlfriend of three years hooked on skiing. We're 29 and 30. For the duration of our relationship I've been injured quite a bit and haven't got out much. This season however, I'm hoping to make up for it! Skied just a few days on groomers with gf last season due to my knee. She's a novice but likes it she says. For those few days I saw definite improvement in terms of technique after giving her a bit of instruction. Stopped turning/sliding with her whole body so much. She's athletic, and loves the outdoors, which helps.

Anyone in here have any experience in making their significant other a powder junkie? I want nothing more in this world than for us to do lines together tongue.gif This is important in regards to the future I think. Don't want to have a discussion of whether or not to go shred!
But what to do/not to do in terms of having her progress as quick as possible and making skiing an overall positive experience? Lessons? Teach her?
Is skiing as a primary concern a mindset that can be taught at all, or are we born this way? biggrin.gif


I think ski nuts are usually born that way, but there are latent ski nuts who can be encouraged.  What region are you going to be skiing in the most?  Day trips or overnight?  Might be too late, but is a multi-week lesson program possible?

 

If she is really interested, point her to TheSkiDiva.com and see what happens.  Note that the Divas will also say that lessons are important and that teaching an SO is not a good idea.  Sometimes the advice is about how to come to an understanding about the best way to ski separately for part of the day.

 

Find the best boot fitter you can ASAP.

post #14 of 21

Wrong thread?
post #15 of 21
post #16 of 21

Biggest mistake I made during the process of getting my girlfriend interested in skiing with me was getting her into lessons that completely separated her from me all day for more than 1 day. She felt alone with people that she didn't know and hated it. She felt like it was my way of pawning her off for the day while I was having fun. 

 

Lessons are critical and I found a way to make it work for both (scheduled a private for her and just tagged along to get some skiing in and pick the instructors brain when I could), and that worked 10x better.  Just keep that in mind.

post #17 of 21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mptT4YDAsZg

 

I had no idea Copper Mountain was so racist! :eek   :ROTF

post #18 of 21

This is all good advice.  A couple problems with skiing powder for beginners are: it ain't found in beginner terrain much, in that the deeper the powder the steeper it needs to be to ski it. Blue groomers that have had six inches of fresh fall on them after they were groomed can be ideal, but an hour after first chair the pow is pushed into little piles of crud that strong skiers can blast through but hang up beginners.

 

 Having said that, after they had become intermediates, I got my kids powder skis, Shiro Jrs, but any wider ski (not too wide) will do. Rent at first- and start by playing around the edges. Really good snow helps, I'll recommend in Utah- we've had a blast skiing powder off the Baby Thunder Chair at Snowbird and the Sunnyside Chair at Alta- places the powderhounds don't bother with and aren't intimidating. Once people get the floaty feeling of powder, they get hooked.

 

As an aside, It took me years to get my wife comfortable with powder- she didn't like not seeing her feet- but these days I fixed her up with a pair of Sir Francis Bacons and she loves it. We're expecting snow tonight and she is stoked....


Edited by Mr. Crab - 1/14/16 at 7:49pm
post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for your input! I might have started off on the slippery slope (no pun) of teaching her myself, but I will look into lessons this year. She's not very comfortable on her own, and I fear that she might think I'm "pawning her off" to go have fun as was said above. So maybe I'll have to scratch along for the class:rotflmao:
She's feeling the pressure most definitely.. With a bit of luck I'll smoothen things out!
She wants to get into skinning, which is big here, but I think it's a good idea to ride more at the hill first and get the technique in..
We're doing a week and a half here in Norway in february, then end it with friends in a cabin for the second weekend. So poles crossed!
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by snow_axe View Post

Thanks everyone for your input! I might have started off on the slippery slope (no pun) of teaching her myself, but I will look into lessons this year. She's not very comfortable on her own, and I fear that she might think I'm "pawning her off" to go have fun as was said above. So maybe I'll have to scratch along for the class:rotflmao:
She's feeling the pressure most definitely.. With a bit of luck I'll smoothen things out!
She wants to get into skinning, which is big here, but I think it's a good idea to ride more at the hill first and get the technique in..
We're doing a week and a half here in Norway in february, then end it with friends in a cabin for the second weekend. So poles crossed!


Ah, Norway . . . that puts a slightly different light on the question.

 

If she is willing to do some reading on her own, point her to TheSkiDiva.com .  There are Divas in northern Europe who post every so often.  The advice there will be the same.  Lessons, and not from the boyfriend.

post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by snow_axe View Post

Thanks everyone for your input! I might have started off on the slippery slope (no pun) of teaching her myself, but I will look into lessons this year. She's not very comfortable on her own, and I fear that she might think I'm "pawning her off" to go have fun as was said above. So maybe I'll have to scratch along for the class:rotflmao:
She's feeling the pressure most definitely.. With a bit of luck I'll smoothen things out!
She wants to get into skinning, which is big here, but I think it's a good idea to ride more at the hill first and get the technique in..
We're doing a week and a half here in Norway in february, then end it with friends in a cabin for the second weekend. So poles crossed!

On the contrary--she'll be relieved.

 

My experience "teaching" my wife to ski powder. First run down an intermediate bowl she did pretty well. So second run we traverse to a steeper open bowl on the other side of the ridge. Except that when we climb through a slot in the rocks there's a steep narrow chute (Gunsight at Alta)--untouched powder except for the first 40 feet or so which is ice. As I gingerly sidestep down the ice a blur goes by me--my wife straightlines the chute. When she reaches the open bowl below she decides it's too easy so she cuts left into the trees and skis down to the base where I manage to find her an hour later. And this was pre shaped skis.

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