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Really big dude, 2nd season, looking for some advice (gear and otherwise)

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Hey there,

so i started late, i'm 39 and this is my second full season. I'm in the northeast and totally hooked, i'm 6'6", about 410, and i'm sking greens and less steep blues comfortably (i can get down from the top of loon, bretton woods, etc. on the easier routes down no problem). So i'm skiing on 174 rossignol pursuit Tis, that are 74 underfoot. I notice that when it gets soft at all out there (thinking about the mashed potatoes at the base of loon i skied through late last february, or this past monday at wachusset where there were spots with a fresh 4 inches of manmade piled up because no one was out skiing at 9 pm in 11 degree weather), my skis bog down, and the tails are like magnetically stuck in a line, i can't even get the tails to breakout if i throw my whole weight against them. Also in the mashed potato snow, i'm being steered by any firmer patches, and not breaking through really well. Finally, when i hit about 18-20 mph, and there is any kind of terrain turbulence, the skis are shaking like crazy and i'm slamming on the breaks because it feel like they're about to come out from under me.

so i want to buy another pair for days when it's not bulletproof groomer out there, but i'm still not sure of how length, width, shape, laminate materials etc. come in to play for the specific situations I've described. I'm pretty sure that at my weight, my Rossi's are short and that i'll want to bump up to the largest thing i can get in a model (though, maybe i'm wrong). and i'm wondering if that bogged down feeling is a function of the narrow width or manmade snow with too much moisture, or what. and i'm wondering if I need as stiff a ski as i'm skiing now, or if i should be looking for the stiffest damn thing i can find because 400 pouds of me is gonna bend anything i can get my hands on as much as i'll ever need it to.

 

anybody got any suggestions for new rides, or any thoughts on what i'm describing above and ways to deal with it on my current set up?

 

i'm headed up to jay peak at the end of the month and looking forward to the trip, and maybe demoing some new joints while i'm up there. i also spend a large part of my free time wishing i lived closer to a big mountain and trying to figureout how to find an IT job at a resort :D, because i am apparently a crackhead.

 

thanks for taking the time to read this brain dump!

-Mike

 

Moderator note: moved to Ski Gear

post #2 of 7
I'm guessing the issue is part technique and part ski. I'm 6'2 and was 280 when I started skiing(lost 30lbs mountain biking). Fischer Motive 86 is probably a good ski for you. Skis 175cm are probably too short for you once you get up to speed. Length is probably just as important as width for big guys. Short skis get real squirrelly at speed.
post #3 of 7
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Originally Posted by bigmikeboston View Post
 

Hey there,

so i started late, i'm 39 and this is my second full season. I'm in the northeast and totally hooked, i'm 6'6", about 410, and i'm sking greens and less steep blues comfortably (i can get down from the top of loon, bretton woods, etc. on the easier routes down no problem). So i'm skiing on 174 rossignol pursuit Tis, that are 74 underfoot. I notice that when it gets soft at all out there (thinking about the mashed potatoes at the base of loon i skied through late last february, or this past monday at wachusset where there were spots with a fresh 4 inches of manmade piled up because no one was out skiing at 9 pm in 11 degree weather), my skis bog down, and the tails are like magnetically stuck in a line, i can't even get the tails to breakout if i throw my whole weight against them. Also in the mashed potato snow, i'm being steered by any firmer patches, and not breaking through really well. Finally, when i hit about 18-20 mph, and there is any kind of terrain turbulence, the skis are shaking like crazy and i'm slamming on the breaks because it feel like they're about to come out from under me.

so i want to buy another pair for days when it's not bulletproof groomer out there, but i'm still not sure of how length, width, shape, laminate materials etc. come in to play for the specific situations I've described. I'm pretty sure that at my weight, my Rossi's are short and that i'll want to bump up to the largest thing i can get in a model (though, maybe i'm wrong). and i'm wondering if that bogged down feeling is a function of the narrow width or manmade snow with too much moisture, or what. and i'm wondering if I need as stiff a ski as i'm skiing now, or if i should be looking for the stiffest damn thing i can find because 400 pouds of me is gonna bend anything i can get my hands on as much as i'll ever need it to.

 

anybody got any suggestions for new rides, or any thoughts on what i'm describing above and ways to deal with it on my current set up?

 

i'm headed up to jay peak at the end of the month and looking forward to the trip, and maybe demoing some new joints while i'm up there. i also spend a large part of my free time wishing i lived closer to a big mountain and trying to figureout how to find an IT job at a resort :D, because i am apparently a crackhead.

 

thanks for taking the time to read this brain dump!

-Mike

 

Moderator note: moved to Ski Gear


Welcome to EpicSki!  Your thread was moved to Ski Gear because during the season some people only read selected forums.  Also added the tag for "Clydesdale Ski Gear."  Look under Topics Discussed for a link to related threads.

 

Are you renting boots?

post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Not renting boots, have Salomon impact 100 CS boots.
post #5 of 7

Skis that I know to be stable and loved by heavy skiers (even despite being beginners or intermediates) are Salomon X-Drive 8.0 TI (or its predecessor XT 800), Salomon X-Drive 8.8 and Blizzard Brahma. 

 

At your weight, these should be great for what you are looking for. Whether or not you are able to ski them at your current level is another question. Try and demo them to find out. 

 

Others wil hopefully have some more suggestions for you.

post #6 of 7
Currently on X-drive 8.8:s and yes, they can handle big boys. Rather racey feel to them, like GS-boards on piste with no speed limit, still very agreeable. Haven't been off piste with them yet.
Edited by Karlsson - 1/9/16 at 1:56pm
post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 

Hey Everybody,

Thanks for all the replies. I've managed to get about 30 days on the mountain this year so far, Had a great lesson at Sunapee that got me from almost carving to cutting grooves, and did a lot of figuring out. In the end, it was the stiffness of the tails on my Rossis that were bogging me down in the soft stuff and making it hard to break the tails free.

 

I was at Sunday river last Saturday, and the snow was about the best I'd seen all winter (shockingly), and a friend let me try out their motive 95ti's, in a 180, and while I did enjoy the extra width, the tails were almost as stiff as the pursuits (by feel anyways) and in the soft patches, I had trouble breaking them out. On my ride home I stopped by Putnam's in Portsmouth just to check out them out, and they made me a silly offer on some 186 Fischer Ranger 90tis. well under 5 bills for skis mounted up with Marker Griffons, so I threw caution to the wind and took them home. Ran up to Killington on Tuesday, and the skis are amazing.

 

Turn initiation just as easy as my Pursuits, only noticed the length difference the first half of the first run. much more stable at speed, a bit of flap at the tips if i throw it full sideways at speed, but with all the rocker up there, seems like it would be expected, and didn't really have an effect on the skiing as far as I could tell. The little bit of tail rocker was awesome though, and really helped (along with the width) in softer spots. The extra length really made a difference with speed, felt way WAY less squirrely when I opened it up, gave me some new confidence turning down into steeper terrain features instead of looking for a way around (if that makes sense). Also, the pair with bindings weigh really close to the same as just one of my Rossis, so that was nice for keeping the legs going a bit longer than normal.  Super fun day! I kept to the greens at Ramshead and Snowshed, as the blue stuff around there seemed a bit icy for my tastes. It slushed up around noon, and I broke out around 2-ish. Really Psyched on the skis, and slightly bummed that the season is already winding down. Going up to loon on Saturday, and possibly Bretton woods Sunday if I can find anyone who wants to go. Thanks again for the comments, and not that I have a whole lot of experience, but the Rangers fit very VERY nicely into what I was looking for! Also, the guys at Putnam were really nice, super helpful, and super attentive, really looking to put me in something that would be good for me. Great Shop!

-Mike

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