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Stockli Ski Recommendation for 85% hard pack

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Thread Starter 

Hi all!

I registered so I could post this after reading through lots of Member Ski Reviews.

 


I'm wondering if you guys could help with a Stockli ski recommendation.  

 

(side note:  I LOVE LOVE LOVE Stockli's and really would prefer only Stockli's)

 

I’m an advanced/expert skier who’s really just settled on only skiing at Sun Valley, Idaho.  I live nearby and we have a house there now and I thought it would be time to get a ski that handles the consistent groomed skiing we have.

 

For years now I’ve been on a 169 Stockli Stormrider VXL and a Rotor before that (similar/same length as I recall).

 

Everyone around SV seems to have one of the racing Stockli’s but I have no clue which to choose.  I do like to go into the crud and mix it up at least 2 runs per day, but the truth of the conditions at SV is that it’s mostly hard pack groomers and certainly a big chunk of ice days too...

 

(especially when the season comes to warming during the day and
refreezing over night).

 

 

Is there one of the Laser's someone might recommend?

Or really any other of their skis?


Length?

 

I’m 5’9” about 165-170

(depending upon beer consumption at any given time…)

 

Thanks so much for any thoughts!

 

Cheers
 

post #2 of 8
Hi - I owned both of those skis, actually, back when. Next length up, am 6', 165. Haven't been at SV in about 6 years but recall it can get choppy.. And yep, sun baked. IMO, you'd really like the AX, which seems to be the spiritual heir of the VXL.

Or if you like to gun it and am a decent skier the non-FIS GS model. Have not skied it but have an acquaintance who raves about his for mix of gates and open slope work in the early am. Personally I don't use my GS skis for Rec, but if I lived in SV I could see it.
post #3 of 8
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@beyond 

 

Thank you!

 

I'm leaning towards the AX - Have a friend who won't stop talking about his...

post #4 of 8
Sun Valley is a cruisers paradise. It has many long runs of consistent pitch that are beautifully groomed, some are steep. You can get going about as fast as comfort will let you. A friend lives there and is on gs race skis pretty much exclulsively, except on powder days. (Powder days are relatively few up there, he jokes that 6" of powder means one flake every 6") You want a ski that'll get on edge, is stable, and holds real well. I'd be on GS race skis. The AX is a great ski but turnier than I'd want for those very long runs, and not as stable as a GS. Since you're specifying Stockli......for SV I'd choose the non-fis 19.6 radius gs in 185, which I have, or my older 188 fis with 26radius. Or the new Masters 184/25R gs, which I don't have. But a GS is the ski for Sun Valley.
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Sun Valley has many long runs of consistent pitch that are beautifully groomed. Some are steep. You can get going about as fast as you like. A friend lives there and is on gs race skis pretty much exclulsively, except on powder days. (Powder days are few up there, he jokes that 6" of powder means one flake every 6") You want a ski that'll get on edge and hold. The AX is a great ski but turnier than I'd want for those very long runs, and not as stable as a GS. I'd be on GS race skis. Since you're specifying Stockli......for SV I'd choose at least the non-fis 19.6 radius gs in 185, which I have, or my older 188 fis with 26radius. Or the Masters 184/25R gs, which I don't have. But a gs is the ski for Sun Valley.

 

Good stuff!

 

You'd recommend a 185!?  for me at 5'9"?

post #6 of 8
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Good stuff!

You'd recommend a 185!?  for me at 5'9"?

Talking about the non-fis*.....At your weight / height, if you like to bend a ski you'd be fine. But if you're doubtful try both 180 and 185, see how you like them. The 185 has more stability, longer edge for hold, is very smooth and silky, and super easy to turn. Feels kind of like a long semi-slalom. I'm using more longer radius skis now, but these are very much fun..... a little wider and they go out on crowded days or when there's some fresh cushion.

*19.4R, not 19.6.

Addition: After you've been at Sun Valley for awhile you'll wind up with a whole bunch of skis. Different conditions, different moods. It happens when you live close to the mountain.
Edited by Utahski - 2/22/16 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by Utahski View Post

Sun Valley is a cruisers paradise. It has many long runs of consistent pitch that are beautifully groomed, some are steep. You can get going about as fast as comfort will let you. A friend lives there and is on gs race skis pretty much exclulsively, except on powder days. (Powder days are relatively few up there, he jokes that 6" of powder means one flake every 6") You want a ski that'll get on edge, is stable, and holds real well. I'd be on GS race skis. The AX is a great ski but turnier than I'd want for those very long runs, and not as stable as a GS. Since you're specifying Stockli......for SV I'd choose the non-fis 19.6 radius gs in 185, which I have, or my older 188 fis with 26radius. Or the new Masters 184/25R gs, which I don't have. But a GS is the ski for Sun Valley.

Well then if he still want Stockli, I would suggest the Laser Sx... Really nice skis, tips are soft enough to be able to ski any snow conditions ( I went into a golf ball mining field at high speed and it took it! Was I happy!) but the rest of the skis are as stiff as my R-Power or Rossi Master and hold an edge like crazy and keep stable at any speed... I skied the 178 cm.

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Originally Posted by emutfeD View Post
 

Hi all!

I registered so I could post this after reading through lots of Member Ski Reviews.

 


I'm wondering if you guys could help with a Stockli ski recommendation.  

 

(side note:  I LOVE LOVE LOVE Stockli's and really would prefer only Stockli's)

 

I’m an advanced/expert skier who’s really just settled on only skiing at Sun Valley, Idaho.  I live nearby and we have a house there now and I thought it would be time to get a ski that handles the consistent groomed skiing we have.

 

For years now I’ve been on a 169 Stockli Stormrider VXL and a Rotor before that (similar/same length as I recall).

 

Everyone around SV seems to have one of the racing Stockli’s but I have no clue which to choose.  I do like to go into the crud and mix it up at least 2 runs per day, but the truth of the conditions at SV is that it’s mostly hard pack groomers and certainly a big chunk of ice days too...

 

(especially when the season comes to warming during the day and
refreezing over night).

 

 

Is there one of the Laser's someone might recommend?

Or really any other of their skis?


Length?

 

I’m 5’9” about 165-170

(depending upon beer consumption at any given time…)

 

Thanks so much for any thoughts!

 

Cheers
 

 

I would recommend an AX, probably 175cm.  That is a sick ski. It is changing next year, only slightly though, so grab this year's model at $200 off and save some money.  I think we are down to our last pair in 175cm, don't know about the other shops, but Stockli is also sold out of the 175cm.  It's their best selling ski.

 

I was just on the SC today in 170cm.  That is also a ripping ski.  A little bit more aggressive at the tip, not bad though; absolutely crushed bumps and off-piste firm pack. The better I skied, the better it skied.  I was flying down some above-treeline windpacked crud, absolutely flying, under 3 minute laps on a 1300 vert lift; that ski has zero speed limit yet is super friendly in the zipper line.  I could really work my feet fore and aft, brush turns as well as carve them, everything in between. The AX is similar, just a bit wider, less aggressive in the tip, and a perfect choice; I do think the SC might be a little strong off-piste for some skiers, but others will find it VERY friendly.  The flex pattern of those skis make them incredibly versatile, easy to use in any condition aside from deep snow; they are easy in junk and crud when stiffer skis can be a handful. Stockli really dialed the flex: softer right at the tip, about 1 foot of the tail is quite soft, underfoot quite firm, and lateral stiffness is perfect at the tip.  It holds, but isn't grabby; you get more bite the more angulation you use, and has extremely progressive engagement, just like a race ski.  Most stuff we ski is too laterally stiff at the tip, very "on or off" and when you are in junky snow, makes you feel like you are on the edge, fighting the ski.  With Stockli, you can ski fast, you are flying, but the ski always has a big sweet spot and feels comfortable, easy, nowhere close to demanding.  The Stockli would be the perfectly balanced race car with the hint of understeer: many other brands would be like a car always too aggressive at turn initiation and fighting oversteer. 

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