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shorty slalom sidecuts

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
does anyone know the sidecut for 2001/2 Salomon equipe 10 3V, wondered if it was different from last years as fischers new slaloms and atomics 9.12s are getting seriously fat at the tip. appreciate the help guys.
post #2 of 11
What is the new Fischer slalom race ski sidecut? The Salomon does not seem to be too fat. I wonder if you can get real fat in the tip and maintain the torsional rigidity that competitive racing requires. Anyone have any comments?
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
hello old man, i met a fischer rep a couple weeks ago and he showed us their new rc4 wc sl-i think? ski grey and yellow in 160 i remember the tip was either 115/116mm waist 65ish and tail around 99 seriouslt fat and pretty stiff. Greg- Xscream 179, i am on salomons wc "course" race stock 160- no prolinks without STS plates. I was just curious if the sidecut was any fatter for next yrs shop, stock factory or wc, mine are 105 64 91. I find out next wk anyhow but if you know now it'd be appreciated. Do you race yourself?
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post #4 of 11
The Fischer Slalom Race Ski for next season is 115-64-97cm.Turn radius @160cm is 12 meters. It's called the RC4 Race SC.
Their GS Race Ski next season is 104-64-92cm with a 19 meter turn radius @181cm. Hope this helps.<FONT size="1">
PS They have another slalom ski called the RC4 Pro SC at 103-63-91cm with a turn radius of 17 meters @ 171cm. <FONT size="1">

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post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
Greg, salomon do several types of race stock skis. there is the standard race factory ones where the only difference appears to be an orange id sticker saying "race team" but they are slightly stiffer than shop ones and have more side edge- well i think they do. these came with a pweraxe race plate that was same as shop ones. they then do the world cup ones, squared of tail, low profile tip and dif sidecut and base, and sometimes STS plates. Then their are versions of the wc one on the race circuit, mario matt has a pair in 168 with giant heavy duty prolinks on it. go for the stock factory ones if you want a sweeter all rnd ski these are still softer than say atomic 9.16 or if its pure gates get the wc ones but theyve got quite a kick in the tail salomon in general seem to be softer than atomics or rossis, my WC ones seemed about as stiff as next yrs fischers discussed above as long as you goshort you should have a prob flexing them.
go short as well get em in 160 if you get the wc ones.
post #6 of 11
Here's something fun and straight from a ski manufacturer- How to detremine the side cut of a ski.

((FCP + ACP/2)- waist)/2 = Sidecut in MM.
FCP = fore contact point; ACP = aft contact point

FCP & ACP is the width in cm's of each. waist too.

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post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
x scream 179 don't know what you weight is but if your lightweight i wouldnt get the ones with STS plates if you can only get 168 rather than 160, as they stiffen them up quite a bit . also i believe STS plates are only compatible with salomons factory race bindings or salomons from like 5 yrs ago which have different back binding to now. If you look at the binding on world cup skiers you see that they are based on old shape more angular design but in this yrs red silver colour. salomon factory dins are 9-16 or 16-22ish bye bye knees unless you eat a lot of pies. get the stock factory ones if you can they will make a better all rnd ski if you want to hit the moguls as well. 168 aint too hot for gs but if i had to buy only 1 ski for both sl and gs id go for that. you'd probably be better off on a 176 or 180 for gs. whats proform ? i dont live in usa.
post #8 of 11
slalomking- Proform is a way of the vendor saying thank you for selling our stuff at your store, so... with this proform your employees can order our stuff at about half price.
If you teach on the mountain, or ski patrol(patrol bennies probably vary here and there)or work in some capacity at a resort you can also proform there.
In the fall go to your local sports store or ski shop to see if you can get hired on as part time. Check with some of the help there if they are allows to profrom and whether you have to be full time or part time and for how long. Some require you to be employed for 90 days, others your proform right away.

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post #9 of 11
Xscream179-
Interesting situation here. 'On a course' I assume you're racing. Free skiing I guess you mean you're on the mountain having fun. You might need two different settings, maybe not. Just for giggles, send me yuor height, weight, age, I,II, or III skier, and boot sole length. Let me check the settings for ya... just for funners.
jyarddog@spiritone.com
In racing you're going 'balls to the wall', off course you're messing around like the rest of us. For racing you are a III skier most likely. When you're not racing your basically skiing II skier because you are not going 100% speed, etc., therefore a lower setting, otherwise they might not release when they are supposed to when off course. On course you might need to go higher. Send your spces. It gives me good practice off season anyhow!

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post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Greg don't think you can 'proform' the race skis unless the relevant race dept person ok's it first cos usually its done through a race deal with the company. but you could always phone. dont know how pratte sports gets away with selling the race ones as there must be a big demand internally from racers through sponsorship and race deals. obviously be good if you could proform them as you might get nxt yrs ones and save a shed load of cash. ive got loads of g.design course work to do so and not much time to do it so
c u later
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
Greg don't think you can 'proform' the race skis unless the relevant race dept person ok's it first cos usually its done through a race deal with the company. but you could always phone. dont know how pratte sports gets away with selling the race ones as there must be a big demand internally from racers through sponsorship and race deals. obviously be good if you could proform them as you might get nxt yrs ones and save a shed load of cash. ive got loads of g.design course work to do so and not much time to do it so
c u later
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