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Middlayer, Arcteryx Atom AR vs Patagonia R3?

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I have currently a Atom AR and im considering to add a Patagonia R3 to my collection and im thinking of does those two work together? Which one would be the warmest?

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I have currently a Atom AR and im considering to add a Patagonia R3 to my collection and im thinking of does those two work together? Which one would be the warmest?

 

Also which one would be most wind/rainproof, maybe i can wear Patagoina as midlayer and Atom AR as third layer or the other way? 

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I don't have either, so that makes me well qualified to answer :-)

 

Isn't the R3 just a fancy fleece?  So given that, it'd seem that the R3 would be more breathable and less wind/rainproof than the AR.  That'd suggest wearing the AR over the top of the R3.  That's a lot of insulation!  I don't know which would be warmer as a mid layer.

 

Btw, if you're in the market for a nice fleece I can recommend the Mountain Hardware Monkey Man.

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Originally Posted by peterm View Post
 

I don't have either, so that makes me well qualified to answer :-)

 

Isn't the R3 just a fancy fleece?  So given that, it'd seem that the R3 would be more breathable and less wind/rainproof than the AR.  That'd suggest wearing the AR over the top of the R3.  That's a lot of insulation!  I don't know which would be warmer as a mid layer.

 

Btw, if you're in the market for a nice fleece I can recommend the Mountain Hardware Monkey Man.

well, it looks decent but i rather go for R3 after reading this review:

http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Fleece-Jacket-Reviews

 

R3 placed first while monkey man placed 6th. 

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The AR is 80g insulation and the R3 is super warm. If you wore both under a shell, you'd roast unless it was -5*. For reference, I wore an R1 and an Atom LT under my shell at 5* at Red Mtn a few years back and was warm enough. Dunno where you ski, but either the AR or the R3 should be plenty warm enough under a shell for most days. If you don't have a wind proof/waterproof shell, perhaps get one instead of the R3 and simply wear the AR as your midlayer.
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The AR is 80g insulation and the R3 is super warm. If you wore both under a shell, you'd roast unless it was -5*. For reference, I wore an R1 and an Atom LT under my shell at 5* at Red Mtn a few years back and was warm enough. Dunno where you ski, but either the AR or the R3 should be plenty warm enough under a shell for most days. If you don't have a wind proof/waterproof shell, perhaps get one instead of the R3 and simply wear the AR as your midlayer.

 

oh i just read that it was a skiing forum lols :P 

 

sry for that, my aim is treeking big cold mountaints. I was googling Arcteryx Atom and got directed here...

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Ok, so the Atom AR is an insulated jacket, http://www.backcountry.com/arcteryx-atom-ar-hooded-insulated-jacket-mens?CMP_SKU=ARC004D&MER=0406&skid=ARC004D-IROANV-XL&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc001&mv_pc=r101&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&mr:trackingCode=337E1177-4A1D-E411-9C5F-BC305BF82376&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&mr:ad=88878776557&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:tid=pla-95885347477&mr:ploc=9003227&mr:iloc=&mr:store=&mr:filter=95885347477&gclid=CIGu_cWBk8oCFcMRHwodWpIEmg&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

Any decent 200wt fleece under it should be fine. There are a ton of 200wt fleeces, don't get hung up on the name. The fleece is just for warmth, the outer shell keeps the wind and rain out.

 

You can get a Campmor 200wt fleece for a few dollars compared to a big name brand, they both will keep you warm. I wear a 200wt fleece that was made by one of the Race Mom's back about 15 years go to support the Okemo Race team. It still works great. I still have my old TNF 200wt fleece I bought about 1994 that still is warm. I also wear my Campmor 200wt fleece pants I bought in 1992, under my shell pants. I paid $19.95 for them.

 

I will agree some of the name brands seem to have better cut. I just want to point out that you don't need to spend a ton of money to stay warm. All my base layers come from Campmor or http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ They have there own brand name base layers for like $11.00 that work as well as the big high priced names like UA. You can also get base layers at stores like Walmart for cheap that work great.

 

Under my street shell's I wear a Marmont fleece that I bought many years ago, it has a nice cut to it.

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