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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

I just got some new Head Rev 78s and skied with them at Snowshoe last week and really enjoyed skiing on them.

 

Of course, I was skiing ice and man-made snow.  

 

I'm going to Alta / Snowbird January 24th and was wondering if I should even bother bringing my skis.  Would it be worth it to bring for even a couple days?  I'm flying Southwest, so there's no baggage fee.  The only extra expense may be getting a ski rack on the rental car.

 

Would the 78s be too narrow?  I skied in Colorado last year after a 19 inch dump with rental skis and they weren't wide, but I thought I'd ask you guys expert opinions.

post #2 of 24

Sure you should bring them.  You never know if you'll have powder or not and they will work fine otherwise.  If you just bought them, why wouldn't you bring them?  I demo'd the 85's and 90's at Keystone and loved the ski.

post #3 of 24

Bring 'em. Bird can get pretty hard between storms. You can always rent fatter if we get lucky...

post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 

How much snow would they have to get before I would need something fatter than my Rev 78s?  At what point do I rent fatter skis?

post #5 of 24

Bring them.  They will work just fine.

 

If you get more than 6 inches of fresh, then you can consider renting something wider.

post #6 of 24

How many days are you skiing?   Besides the cost of the ski rack on your rental car (or upcharge to rent an SUV).  there's the lugging them around to the airport and to your rental car and so on.  

 

If you're going 4days or more bring them.  3days or less rent.

post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
Skiing six days. I just didn't want to bring them if I was just going to end up renting fatter skis.

But from what you all have said I guess I'll bring them with me.
post #8 of 24
Bring them, and rent if you get a storm
post #9 of 24
Tough call. Renting will add up quick but so is renting a vehicle to accommodate transport. Which is cheaper? Maybe that is not even an issue? Check rental rates. Skis like the Brahma, Vantage 95c, or Head Monster 88 will be in the mid $40 range at Christy. Check the weather as it gets closer. I think they are getting some good snow now.

If I was doing most of my skiing on frontside groomers then it would be a no brainier. I would bring them. 4-5" of snow, crud, chop you should be ok. Beyond that I think would be up to you and how comfortable you are with them.
post #10 of 24

Bring them and lay them down the middle of the interior of the rental to save from renting a rack.  Clean the snow off good and put them in your ski bag to capture water from melting snow getting all over.  I'd be dying to use my own skis if I got them recently, but I would hope that conditions are such that you need something fatter.:D

post #11 of 24
Thread Starter 

Yep, this is a good problem to have... :)

 

A ski rack is only $10.99 per day x 7 days= $77 +  tax

 

Renting is $30 per day x 6= $180 + tax

 

* If I rent demo skis it's $38 per day.

 

I'll be in a car with three other guys, so we may not have room in the car.  I'm the only one brining skis...the other guys are renting.

 

I'll just keep watching the weather.  Does the need for fat skis only arise when there is 6 inches + the day prior?  Or will I need fat skis for several days after 19 inches?

 

I do plan on doing half of my skiing in trees.

post #12 of 24

Well, apparently for many folks here, you never need fat skis so there's no absolute rule 

 

A lot of it depends on YOU and what terrain you're choosing skiing and if you're having fun on it.  

If you're not as super awesome as some folks here, you hit powder in your skinnier skis and immediately one ski goes one way and other ski goes other way and you fall over.

 

You will need to try and experiment what your skills.   

post #13 of 24
If you plan in skiing the trees, I'd rent something wider and keep the Revs home.
post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 

Ok, I may need to throw this out there...I don't have that much experience skiing deep powder.  I've skied after a 19" dump one other time at Winter Park and I probably stayed on groomed trails most of the time.  Also I'm an intermediate skier.

 

But this time I'm wanting to hit the trees more.

post #15 of 24
Here is the thing, dumps like that are rare. You should be prepared to ski older snow and hope you get some fresh. If you rent and it dumps, go to the shop and ask to get something real wide. If it doesnt dump and you end up skiing the groomers your entire trip, your Revs will be fine.
post #16 of 24
No matter which way you go, it will be super fun,
I have a pair of Rossi temptations 78,carbon fiber laminates and no matter how hard I push them they always deliver and show up,ive skid probe around 20 different resorts with them and they did great,
Now if you get a dump and you go to the summit of a mountain then your renting fat playful twin tips, I am jealous have a great time man,
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
 

I just got some new Head Rev 78s and skied with them at Snowshoe last week and really enjoyed skiing on them.

 

Of course, I was skiing ice and man-made snow.  

 

I'm going to Alta / Snowbird January 24th and was wondering if I should even bother bringing my skis.  Would it be worth it to bring for even a couple days?  I'm flying Southwest, so there's no baggage fee.  The only extra expense may be getting a ski rack on the rental car.

 

Would the 78s be too narrow?  I skied in Colorado last year after a 19 inch dump with rental skis and they weren't wide, but I thought I'd ask you guys expert opinions.

 

The snow in LCC has been great.  So far it looks like it's going to hold up another week.  I wouldn't be surprised if you found it incredible.  No one can tell you if it will be worth it to you to bring your skis but you.  You wouldn't have a problem renting suitable skis on site if you decided not to bring them.

post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gobbly View Post
 

No one can tell you if it will be worth it to you to bring your skis but you.  You wouldn't have a problem renting suitable skis on site if you decided not to bring them.

You're right, I know.  But nonetheless, I still appreciate the feedback from the experienced guys on this board.

post #19 of 24
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  Does the need for fat skis only arise when there is 6 inches + the day prior?  Or will I need fat skis for several days after 19 inches?

 

It's not really an issue if it's old or new snow. What matters is how  deep it is.  Although, the longer after a storm, the more opportunity there is for skiers to have gone over the snow and packed it down.

 

You are probably used to skiing groomers, a 2D surface.  It is much easier to carve or skid your turns on a 2D surface.  When the snow gets deeper you are now in a 3D surface. (You can go up and down, changing height in the snow itself.)  This makes things very different and if you are not used to it, it can actually be quite difficult.  Wider skis and skis with rocker make it much easier.

post #20 of 24

One more thing to note more than just the snow depth is thst Snowbird is a difficult mountain, so don't be afraid to take all the help you can get otherwise youll be pooped in 2hours. Read some guides on snowbird  Even Big Emma which is a big fat green circle may feel like a solid intermediate run to you depending on conditions and moguls).



while i have not skied the head 78 I doubt it has the mass and stiffness of a bigger ski that can help dampen the more uneven terrain.
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by Medium Al View Post
 

 

It's not really an issue if it's old or new snow. What matters is how  deep it is.  Although, the longer after a storm, the more opportunity there is for skiers to have gone over the snow and packed it down.

 

You are probably used to skiing groomers, a 2D surface.  It is much easier to carve or skid your turns on a 2D surface.  When the snow gets deeper you are now in a 3D surface. (You can go up and down, changing height in the snow itself.)  This makes things very different and if you are not used to it, it can actually be quite difficult.  Wider skis and skis with rocker make it much easier.

 

I'd venture that there's more than depth.  The condition of the snow is big.  Crust on dust, dust on crust, both are quite different than fresh at the same depth, and I personally will chose different skis for these varied conditions.  The older the snow, the more chance it has to get crusty on top.  You're right in the sense that the time is not the determining factor, but it does come into play as many of the processes that alter fallen snow require time.  The right weather can keep fresh snow fresh for a long time, but the inverse is true as well.  Of course with crowds everything gets packed down before it has a chance to naturally degrade, as you point out.

post #22 of 24

Just got back from Utah.  I had the same question about bringing my Kastle 78's.  I finally opted for my 95-waist skis...and boy am I glad I did.  While they were ever-so-less-than optimal for the first two days, the next four days made me really glad I chose the wider skis.  It snowed somewhere b/w 2-6" each day, and it got deeper where the wind blew it.  On day 5 and 6 I even found myself wishing for wider.  


But... I was focused on skiing off-piste as much as possible.  If you want to stay on the groomers exclusively, 78 might be enough.  But if you only want groomers, why do you want to go to Snowbird? If there's not a convenience or money cost, bring them.  But I think you'll find skiing Snowbird off-piste a lot easier with some wider shoes.

post #23 of 24
It's the same as always, I'd bring the skis you're used too and rent bigger skis if the conditions warrent it. I'd much rather be on skis I know well in crappy conditions than demo skis.
post #24 of 24

off piste has been nothing short of amazing in LCC and should continue to be during your vacation days - if that's what your after rent some fat skis and enjoy that famous Utah Powder

 

yesterday at the Bird was off the hook! you needed fatties on the groomers ( i think i saw a couple groomers anyway) - I skied my Line Mr. Pollard Opus's (118 waist) and wish I brought my Armada Bubbas (127 waist) - so deep and so soft.

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