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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I want to purchase the new Nordica Enforcer ski, but as I'm not going skiing until late February, I'm worried that all of the ski shops will be out of stock of that particular ski, as the season will be mostly over by then. Given the current demand for the Enforcer, would it be a good idea to purchase that ski online so I am guranteed to have the ski I want? I've never bought skis online before, so I don't know if it's a good option or not. And on another note, I've read good things about the Marker Jester binding, would that be a reasonable binding choice to pair with the Enforcer? Thanks.
post #2 of 13
I'm guessing most on this site buy their skis online. Some don't, usually because they want to support their local merchant. Why wait until February wherever you're buying? If you're worried the ski will be gone, that could happen even online. Especially if you want a popular length. It's always a gamble. However, if you're in the East, it might be worth taking that gamble if their season doesn't look up. Could be fire sales on all their stock, even though to me it's not an East Coast ski. (But there's plenty who would disagree.)

Personally, I like waiting until the ski is down to under $400, but I'm more flexible in what I want, I don't settle on one ski. Once you fixate on one ski, it'll cost ya.
post #3 of 13

My recommendation is buy it now because they may all be gone.  I work part time for a Nordica dealer,  We ordered more than 50 pair to start the season and now have less than 10, one 177 and the rest are 185.  The Jester is a solid binding but I hate that whole series of bindings for use in powder and also to adjust.  That Marker design heel is very difficult to get back into in really soft snow.  IMO there are better options: Atomic/Salomon STH2, Tyrolia AAAtack or Look SPX12.  Send me a PM if you have any questions.

post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

My recommendation is buy it now because they may all be gone.  I work part time for a Nordica dealer,  We ordered more than 50 pair to start the season and now have less than 10, one 177 and the rest are 185.  The Jester is a solid binding but I hate that whole series of bindings for use in powder and also to adjust.  That Marker design heel is very difficult to get back into in really soft snow.  IMO there are better options: Atomic/Salomon STH2, Tyrolia AAAtack or Look SPX12.  Send me a PM if you have any questions.

Quoted for Truth

 

When you want this years hot ski, get them now and, while you can shop for best price, don't expect a discount. Buying on-line is so common, you might want to check in again to verify the specific seller, but, I'd PM @mtcyclist and buy from him anyday.


Edited by Living Proof - 12/25/15 at 6:37am
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

My recommendation is buy it now because they may all be gone.  I work part time for a Nordica dealer,  We ordered more than 50 pair to start the season and now have less than 10, one 177 and the rest are 185.  The Jester is a solid binding but I hate that whole series of bindings for use in powder and also to adjust.  That Marker design heel is very difficult to get back into in really soft snow.  IMO there are better options: Atomic/Salomon STH2, Tyrolia AAAtack or Look SPX12.  Send me a PM if you have any questions.

I agree with everything here. 

 

As you probably know based on your internet research, the Enforcer is "the" hot ski of the season and it is going to sell out before the sales in February.  And like most hot skis, I'd expect Nordica to do an "early release" of the 2017, in the February time frame which will sell for full price.  Bottom line:  if you want the Enforcer this season or next, buy it now because you aren't going to be saving any money, even if you wait until summer.

 

As for bindings, I have skis with both Jesters and Griffons and like @mtcyclist I am totally done with Marker Royals for any ski that is going to see soft snow (which are most of my skis).  Great bindings - they work as advertised, but a total pain to step into in any soft or steep conditions.  Sollies, Looks, Tyrolia are equally good and much easier to use in serious terrain. 

 

That said, if you are a Marker fan, why the Jester?  Are you a huge guy? Where do you set your Dins? Do you drop significant air?  The Jester is a Din 16 binding, and without more info my guess is that you would probably be just fine on a Din 13 binding like the Griffons.  If you like the colors of the Jester go for it (and pay a bit more for a heavier spring), but FWIW, Griffons ski and operate exactly the same.

post #6 of 13

I too have replaced my Marker Griffons due to the difficulty getting them back on in deep snow and steep terrain as they just take too hard of a stomp to get into in those conditions.

 

The ski tech guys at the resort owned shop where I work do an annual binding bench test on all resort employees' skis who work with skis on (Patrol, Ski Instructors,etc.) and they tell me that Marker bindings fail to pass the test more frequently than other bindings. They also say they have sometimes seen test failures on new Markers, right out of the box.

post #7 of 13
Another Marker Griffon hater. The toe piece/plate continually needs adjustment because it loosens and you can feel it shifting and it squeaks with every turn. Since day one. Hate them. It's the first time in 40-odd years I've felt any interest at all in the binding (okay, there were two pair that when moved to new skis failed to pass inspection the second year on the new ski, but at least I got some use out of them).
post #8 of 13

Never had a problem with Griffons, they're on all my skis.  As to getting them back on in deep powder, I can't compare to other bindings, I can't say.  They're a lot easier to click out of then other bindings I've had though.

post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all of the advice. I'm definitely set on buying the skis online now, I just wanted to make sure it was advisable. Now my other concern is getting the right size. I'm about 6'1 165 lbs, and I'm guessing I should get the 185cm ski. Does that sound about right? And I was only asking about the Marker Jester because a web site suggested it with the enforcer. If anyone has any better suggestions for bindings, that would be great.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by jgiblin415 View Post

Thanks for all of the advice. I'm definitely set on buying the skis online now, I just wanted to make sure it was advisable. Now my other concern is getting the right size. I'm about 6'1 165 lbs, and I'm guessing I should get the 185cm ski. Does that sound about right? And I was only asking about the Marker Jester because a web site suggested it with the enforcer. If anyone has any better suggestions for bindings, that would be great.

My son is almost exactly your size and he's on 185 Enforcers, perfect for him.  I'm 5'7", 150 pounds and 177 is the perfect size for me.  Unless you need more than a 12 DIN, which I think is highly unlikely, any of the three bindings I mentioned will work fine.  You can get the AAAtack 13 in matte black or black and reddish orange and the STH2 is available in blue and orange.  We've sold a lot of Enforcers with that binding as the binding color matches the colors of the ski quite nicely.  The black and orange AAAtack 13 also matches well.  My son has the matte black because that's what he wanted.  The AAAtack is a bit cheaper than the STH2, but not a lot, about $20.

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

. . . even though to me it's not an East Coast ski. (But there's plenty who would disagree.)
 

 

Me. I do!

 

Which surprises me.  Of all the skis I demoed December 12, though, in very mixed conditions, the 100mm Enforcer worked best, soft snow, ice, soft bumps. It had the best edge grip. It carved everything. It was just a great all-around ride. I also demoed an Experience 88, which was second best, and my FX84s would do well (if I cared to risk their bases), but I could see the Enforcer as an OSQ for the East. It would do very well. Weirdly.

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by jgiblin415 View Post

Thanks for all of the advice. I'm definitely set on buying the skis online now, I just wanted to make sure it was advisable. Now my other concern is getting the right size. I'm about 6'1 165 lbs, and I'm guessing I should get the 185cm ski. Does that sound about right? And I was only asking about the Marker Jester because a web site suggested it with the enforcer. If anyone has any better suggestions for bindings, that would be great.

At 6'1" your size if 185.  As for bindings, I am really pleased with the Sollie Sth2. My current go-to binding. 

 

Sth2 13 is probably just perfect for you.  Or go for the Attack 13.  Both are excellent.

post #13 of 13

I buy almost all of my ski gear online.  I have purchased 12 pairs of skis online.  I only had one problem on a pair of used Enforcer TI skis on Ebay where they had been mounted twice and since the holes were under the binding it was not disclosed.  I filed a not as described complaint and gave the seller the option to pay for shipping both ways and get them back or discount them hard.  I ended up in them around $150 with Jester bindings.  I would say not a bad deal.  I have about 1200 Ebay buys and a few sells. I am X ski patrol and am a pretty good skier although getting a bit older now.  I have Salomon, Rossignol, Look, Marker bindings.  I am 5'9" and weigh in at 230 fat boy pounds.  I ski anywhere from 176 to 187 cm.  Some skis Blizzard for one are shorter than my K2 skis.  My 181 K2 is almost the same as my 187 Bonafide.  I have the Bodacious, Bonafide, Brahma, Cochise in Blizzard and in K2 I have the Hardside, Sideshow, Shreditor 102.  I also have the Nordida Enforcer TI in 187 and the Noridica Fire Arrow EDT in a 184.  Almost forgot I also have the Rossignol SC97 Phantom.  As you have most likely deduced I am very ski impaired.  I have had no problems with the bindings on any of these skis but do not ski any one pair all of the time.  I agree with what everyone has said here as they know what they are talking about.  In most cases more than I do.  I have been told and to some degree agree that the higher the DIN binding rating the stronger the binding itself is.  I ski with my DIN at 8.  Being 57 I am not near as aggressive skiing as I was when I was younger.  I have been an OK powder skier in the past but am now just starting to get back into it.  Not really sure it is my thing as I am mostly a cruiser. My powder skis have Griffons and Jesters on them.  I have not come out of them in the powder but have heard the complaint of the difficulty in getting the ski back on in soft snow.  One solution I heard was to get the snow off of the bottom of your boot and to put your boot in the toe piece and pull the tail of the ski up with your hand/arm to click in.  Sounds like it should work if one has the arm strength.  I usually buy my skis off of Ebay.  I focus on expert level Demo gear.  I am usually buying last years gear.  I am paying about 30% of full retail and around $30-35 to ship them.  With all of the crappy snow years in the past few years most of these have been out under 4 times and are in excellent condition.  Two that I purchased were brand new with bindings.  One the Cochise was new flat for $300.  All of these a via a bid.  Not a buy it now.  I usually bid it early and cheap and then wait until the last 10 seconds to make my max bid.  It lowers your chances of getting in a bidding war.  Be patient as there are a ton of skis out there.  Always read all of the reviews you can get your hands on.  I looked at the new Enforcer and passed when I saw some reviews where people liked the 98 under foot that I already have better.  I ski about 20 times a year when there is adequate snow.  I am a seasons pass holder at Stevens Pass Resort in Washington state.

No matter what you end up doing best of luck and have fun.

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