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Boots and skis for a six-year-old suggestions please.  

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Hi everyone, we are fixing to take our daughter on her first ski trip. I am a snowboarder. But I have purchased a set of skiboards and ski boots so that I can cruise around with her as she learns on her first trip without any drama.
She will be in lessons for at least a day maybe two then I'll probably take it from there . I do not like to rent equipment. And I do like to provide my daughter with quality athletic equipment and gear. I'm a firm believer in that with all of her activities.

Can you folks throw out a good combination of boots and skis for me to check out?

Looking for popular and good quality combos. Nothing too exotic. I'd like it to be equipment that I can resell easily when needed.

I've only skied once it was 27 years ago. I'm basically a complete newbie to skiing but I'm very confident I'll pick up the skiboards very easily. So I don't know a lot about skis. Although I have learned quite a bit about adult ski boots in the last two weeks lol.

She wears 11 to 12 size shoes and most shoes now. So I'm guessing her Mondo size would be 17.5 to 18.

She is six years old, right around 46 inches tall, and Weighs right around 45 pounds.

Any insight from you experience skiers with children that ski, or instructors would be great.
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I don't mean to sound harsh but, a snowboarder trying to teach their child to ski is not a good idea at all.  Even if you were a skier it still isn't a good idea.  I never taught my son and don't offer advice to him or my wife unless asked.  He and his fiance will be here for a few days beginning New Years day and she has been skiing once.  I've made arrangements for a 2 hour private lesson with a very good instructor because I would rather spend the money for that than take a chance on any bad feelings between us.  It just isn't worth it.  I see parents and grandparents trying to teach kids to ski and its never pretty.  I actually had a confrontation with a grandparent one day who was yelling at a grandchild because the child couldn't do what she was being told to do.  The grandparent had no clue that at the age the child was she couldn't physically do what was being demanded of her.  Good childrens' instructors are worth far more than they get paid.  

 

As far as gear is concerned, any shop will be happy to take your money, but you will be literally wasting it.  Find a shop that does season rentals.  That way if your daughter has a growth spurt and outgrows her boots, you can just swap them out for a larger size.  And you don't buy boots with the intent that they grow into them.  Nordica and Head both make good gear for kids


Edited by mtcyclist - 12/23/15 at 6:02pm
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I don't mean to sound harsh but, a snowboarder trying to teach their child to ski is not a good idea at all.  Even if you were a skier it still isn't a good idea.  I never taught my son and don't offer advice to him or my wife unless asked.  He and his fiance will be here for a few days beginning New Years day and she has been skiing once.  I've made arrangements for a 2 hour private lesson with a very good instructor because I would rather spend the money for that than take a chance on any bad feelings between us.  It just isn't worth it.  I see parents and grandparents trying to teach kids to ski and its never pretty.  I actually had a confrontation with a grandparent one day who was yelling at a grandchild because the child couldn't do what she was being told to do.  The grandparent had no clue that at the age the child was she couldn't physically do what was being demanded of her.  Good childrens' instructors are worth far more than they get paid.  

Thanks for the advice. I am definately going to get her a day or two of lessons. Trust me, that's all she'll need and I'll take it from there.
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As far as gear is concerned, any shop will be happy to take your money, but you will be literally wasting it.  Find a shop that does season rentals.  That way if your daughter has a growth spurt and outgrows her boots, you can just swap them out for a larger size.  And you don't buy boots with the intent that they grow into them.  Nordica and Head both make good gear for kids

Nah, I am content to purchase. I'm a bargain shopper, I'll buy the equipment well enough to be able to sell it when she outgrows it and get most of my money back. I've done it time and time again. If I can't recoup most of my investment, then it doesn't bother me.

I'll start looking onto the Nordica and Head options. Anyone else got any specific recommendations?

Any ski lengths I need to be considering?
post #4 of 20
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I'm thinking 90-100cm to start and roll with that for a few seasons.
post #5 of 20

I suppose you must like to hear yourself talk. Why ask for advice when you already have all the answers.  :nono:

post #6 of 20
I'd like to second the seasonal rentals. Kids have this habit of growing mid season or in spurts, not steadily when you want them to. With seasonal rentals, you just swap them as soon as you realize. Or, if the kid only wanted the red ones when she got fitted and it turns out she fibbed about the ouchies you can swap, too.
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I'm thinking 90-100cm to start and roll with that for a few seasons.


Skis that reach about chin level are good for kids who are just starting out.  I rented or did a season lease until it was clear my daughter would keep skiing when I got her started with the help of ski school at age 4.  We live 3-4 hours away (central NC) from where we could ski so didn't get in many days ages 4-7.  After our first spring break trip to Alta when she was 7, then it was worth buying boots and skis.  Got the first set at a ski swap in the fall.  By then she was Level 6 (of 9) and starting out with skis up to her forehead was no big deal.  They were the right length well before the second year.

 

Paging @crgildart , who bought used gear for his kids because he knows what to look for on eBay.

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I suppose you must like to hear yourself talk. Why ask for advice when you already have all the answers.  nonono2.gif
lol I see why your name is kinggrump. Thanks for your very informative post. Please don't post in my thread again.
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Skis that reach about chin level are good for kids who are just starting out.  I rented or did a season lease until it was clear my daughter would keep skiing when I got her started with the help of ski school at age 4.  We live 3-4 hours away (central NC) from where we could ski so didn't get in many days ages 4-7.  After our first spring break trip to Alta when she was 7, then it was worth buying boots and skis.  Got the first set at a ski swap in the fall.  By then she was Level 6 (of 9) and starting out with skis up to her forehead was no big deal.  They were the right length well before the second year.

Paging @crgildart
 , who bought used gear for his kids because he knows what to look for on eBay.

Thanks for that info! Her chin comes in right at somewhere between 95 and 100cm..... Depending on how she's holding her head LOL

Tons of great deals on eBay. Now I just need to sift through them.
I'll might just put several of them on my watch list and let her pick out the ones that float her boat.

However, I did find a girls ski package for less than $200 ( with a best offer option) that has 97cm Head Mojo Spawn 3 skis with Atomic bindings, poles and Roxy boots. All new items and fitted based on her specs. You just send in a trace of their bare foot with weight and height...

This morning I also found an in like new condition package that includes Rossi Girl's 100cm, Atomic bindings and Roces adjustable boots 16-18.5 for a great price with obo option. Those are gonna be a hard to pass deal. But they don't get "set up" as they are from an individual and not a shop.
That find introduced me to these Roces adjustable boots. Neat idea. However she seems to be right at the upper end of the 16-18.5 and not quite to the 19-22. But in reality she should be right at about a 17.5 so these adjustables would give her a little bit a room to grow at least.

But after staying up till the wee hours of the morning last night looking at skis there are so many good options that are basically turnkey purchases.
I've found K2, Head, Rossi, Elan, techno pro, salomon, Nordica, Fischer, volkl ......whew! Lol
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lol I see why your name is kinggrump. Thanks for your very informative post. Please don't post in my thread again.

Oh and you've just been blocked smile.gif Love that great anti troll feature! biggrin.gif
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I'd like to second the seasonal rentals. Kids have this habit of growing mid season or in spurts, not steadily when you want them to. With seasonal rentals, you just swap them as soon as you realize. Or, if the kid only wanted the red ones when she got fitted and it turns out she fibbed about the ouchies you can swap, too.

Thank you! Duly noted. smile.gif
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Oh and you've just been blocked smile.gif Love that great anti troll feature! biggrin.gif
I'm sure he's devastated.
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Thank you! Duly noted. smile.gif
Makes me feel better! LOL!
You too...see ya!
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Oh the shame of being blocked by Mr Arrogance of 2015.roflmao.gif
post #15 of 20
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Well, on second thought, I can see where this may be going LOL! It's quite funny. I'm a veteran, active forum user. I'm used to seeing flames, trolls and crusty, jaded veteran posters since I've been on a lot of forums as I'm an active guy with many interests. As for my winter sports activities I've been on some snowboard forums for help and even a skiboard forum and all have been quite helpful. I've never run into the trolls and immediate condescension on those forums as fast I have on this one. I googled "best snow ski forums" and this one came up as the first hit....really? ..WOW!

Anyway, I see why skiers get their very deserved reputations as ass hats and complete douchebags.
Good job on representin!!
Some of you, which seem to be a high number for the amount of posts on this thread already, are perfect representatives of that stigma.
I'm definately getting my girl into the snowboarding scene ASAP. She'll obviously ski for a few season and that's it.

As for skis for her to get started? I think I can take my buying desicion from here. Thanks for the few that were helpful. I do appreciate that.

As far as I'm concerned...thread closed and unsubscribed....No need for further replies.

And I won't let the door hit me on the ass on the way out. I wouldn't give you the pleasure. cool.gif
Edited by DiscoDisco - 12/24/15 at 8:08am
post #16 of 20
Yeah. Teach her to snowboard. You don't want her instantly becoming an "ass hat or complete douchebag" the moment she puts her new skis on.

There are plenty of six year olds sitting on the bunny runs. I looked up yesterday and counted 14, just sitting, in 3 "lessons". Cute.
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. I'm a veteran, active forum user. I'm used to seeing flames, trolls and crusty, jaded veteran posters since I've been on a lot of forums as I'm an active guy with many interests. As for my winter sports activities I've been on some snowboard forums for help and even a skiboard forum and all have been quite helpful. I've never run into the trolls and immediate condescension on those forums as fast I have on this one.

Sometimes a little introspection can be a huge asset in life. When you have no experience in an activity and an overwhelming majority of experienced folk tell you you are choosing a foolish path... maybe, just maybe, they are right and you are wrong. 

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I suppose you must like to hear yourself talk. Why ask for advice when you already have all the answers.  nonono2.gif
lol I see why your name is kinggrump. Thanks for your very informative post. Please don't post in my thread again.

Dude, it's a open forum.

 

post #19 of 20

FWIW, I think Elan are making the best kids gear out there.  Their skis with the "U-Grooves" are great, soft flexing yet still have some torsional rigidity.  By contrast the Fischers we had were absolute planks.  

 

My (just turned) 6-year old will be on 100's again this year but I might get him a longer pair if he out grows the Elans. 


I buy all of my stuff via the local classifieds.  Typically <$100 for skis and bindings and <$50 for boots.

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Well this thread seems to have derailed pretty well. I think we can just lock this and let it die. 

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