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post #61 of 77
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Originally Posted by Moose32 View Post

Once there, WMF is very reasonable. It is the flying to FCA that is very expensive - often cheaper to fly to Austria.

If you can to Whitefish without flying it is a great bargain.

WMF?
post #62 of 77
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post


WMF?

White Mish Fountain.

 

You really should have known!

post #63 of 77
Weapons of Mass Fish.
post #64 of 77
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

The thought that little experiment triggered in me, however, is an apocryphal vision of slopes that are even MORE crowded than they are today and powder days that are even MORE frenzied than now if lift tickets in general - and at JHMR in particular - were significantly cheaper.  If that makes me an elitist, well I guess I'll just live with that.

I do know this:  JHMR has spent north of 100 million dollars in the last 20 years making significant capital improvements.  They just opened a brand-new high-speed quad lift that serves new terrain.  Another gondola will start construction this summer and open in 2017/18.  Those improvements have made the mountain ski far better than it used to for the "average" Jackson Hole skier.  There are in the neighborhood of a thousand employees working in various capacities around the mountain on any given day.

Yes, the daily lift ticket costs a lot.  I still believe - for a good skier/rider - that ticket buys an experience that rates among the very best available both here in the US and around the world.  Actually, I am sorry that it's not more affordable here for families and for riders who are learning to ski.  But I also can't fault the family that owns the place for wanting to receive a return on all the money they have invested.

JH stands out for us as one of our favourite ski areas ever. Funnily enough, coming from the Southern Hemisphere, we thought that the lift passes were pretty reasonable, especially compared to what you get for your money round these parts.

But, most importantly it is a skiers mountain, and from what I saw, the owners know that. This is evidenced by the significant investment in lift capacity, including lifts that open new lift serviced areas. The only other mountain we have seen this is Red Mountain in BC, another skiers mountain. Most other places we have been the focus is on real estate development.

I don't mind prices so much when I can see some of my investment being reinvested in things that make my skiing experience better.
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I've skied at a lot of places out West.  Let me share a little story about my first time experience at Jackson Hole last year.  I took my two sons and my dad out there on a trip in late March.  On our first morning, we stopped at the Cafe there at the base to grab some breakfast.  I got in line while my boys and dad grabbed a table.  The person in front of me in line turns around and starts talking to me...asking me where I was from (Missouri)...had I been to Jackson Hole before (no)...how long was my flight from Missouri (no flight, we drove)...how long did that take (18 hours)...stuff like that.  Anyway, he says "since this is your first time to Jackson Hole, let me buy you breakfast."  I said, "That's very generous of you, but I'm getting breakfast for my whole family."  He ordered himself a breakfast sandwich and then told me that he was buying for my whole family since we drove 18 hours there and he wanted our trip to start off on a good note.  I was so impressed and moved by this generosity.  He was a JH employee of some sort and was from either Australia or New Zealand (can't remember).  I've been to all the big resorts out West and that was the first time I experienced that type of hospitality.  All that to say, whatever JH wants to charge for a lift ticket, I'm willing to pay as there are a lot of things special about that place.  You might even get an unexpected free breakfast.

Our family had similar experiences at JH, although not spontaneous buying of breakfast (but one woman did buy angel wings and halo's for all of our camp class). As skiing transients / permanent tourists it was so nice to consistently experience great hospitality and not be treated as an annoyance, lesser class citizen or something to be fleeced. Having regularly been "the tourist" and living in a country where annual international visitor arrivals equate to approximately 75% of our population, you quickly learn that being friendly and polite is not hard but can make a big difference to someone's experience. JH locals and staff do this really well.
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I think the 1/2 price deal is for any season pass at any resort.  I don't love that they sell early trams to "special people", but I understand that it is normal in the industry now.  All it takes to be special is the desire and ability to book a private ski lesson or be part of a ski camp.

Having been one of the special thanks to being on a camp. They are more than worth it. The ski school (adults and kids) is the best that we have come across, and it was definitely not the most expensive. The level of professionalism and quality of instruction was faultless for us. And they went the most above and beyond. My son's instructor took up flavourings for the class to make natural snow cones one day, took them on their first hike up the head wall, and turned up with photos that he took of them at the top a few days later.

So, all in all, it was, in our eyes, value for money.
post #65 of 77

Why are lift tickets so expensive one might ask ?

 

This might give some insight :  why is divorce so expensive ?  CAUSE ITS WORTH EVERY PENNY OF IT.  hope this helps,

post #66 of 77
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Originally Posted by golani View Post
 

Why are lift tickets so expensive one might ask ?

 

This might give some insight :  why is divorce so expensive ?  CAUSE ITS WORTH EVERY PENNY OF IT.  hope this helps,

I believe this thread can now be locked! 

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I believe this thread can now be locked! 


Wouldn't it be great if we can all believe when a thread can now be locked,

Please show cause for an expensive lift ticket .

post #68 of 77
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Originally Posted by HRPufnStf View Post
 

JH has had my heart for a long time, and probably always will.  I only get to ski there 5 to 10 days a year now.  Honestly, I would pay more, if it reduced crowds.

 

A couple of tips:

 

1.  Per @bob peters, tickets are half price in January if you happen to have a season pass at certain other mountains (sorry, I only know that Mt. Hood Meadows is one of them).

 

2.  If you're with a group, I suggest booking through the ski corp's lodging service, since they offer reasonable lodging rates and AFAIK, they are the only source of discount lift tickets as part of the lodging package (usually around $65 or so per day).

 

Like any great love, I suppose, JH also has some glaring flaws.  I offer for consideration the wonderful description by @offpiste of a powder morning on the tram dock.  It captures the vibe very well, but is missing the part about watching at least 2 tram cars of "special people" head up the mountain for first tracks BEFORE YOU HAVE A CHANCE.  I confess that I have become an afternoon tram guy.

 

Pro Tip for First Tram:  GS the bowl, scream all the way across the cat track to the top of Thunder Chair, and (probably) bag first tracks down Tower Three Chute on a powder morning.  Money!

Wow, first tracks in Tower Three...thanks for that. It's been too long. Guess I will be taking a trip now. :D

post #69 of 77

My view is that lift tickets are part but well less than half the cost of a ski vacation, but that skiers seem to obsess on lift tickets vs. the equally important costs of lodging and transport.

 

Jackson's lift ticket prices are middle of the pack for top destination ski areas in North America.  Jackson's lodging prices are much lower than most resort towns because it's primarily a summer resort. Like Rainbow Jenny, Liz and I have found excellent lodging with amenities like breakfast and a convenient pool/hot tub for less than $100/night.  That hotel is 3x the price in July/August as in Jan/Feb.

 

Jackson is one of the better remote destinations for frequent air service, though prices probably aren't a bargain.  But if you want to save $, fly to Salt Lake and drive the 5 hours, not much different than flying to DIA and driving to Aspen.  And I'll bet that SUV won't cost $461/day rented in SLC vs. in a resort town.

 

In terms of quality of experience vs. $$$ spent Jackson is in the upper echelon of North American ski resorts IMHO.


Edited by Tony Crocker - 12/27/15 at 1:20pm
post #70 of 77
Any discount ticket advise for someone that isn't flying into town or needing lodging?
post #71 of 77
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Originally Posted by cbtbakkes View Post

Any discount ticket advise for someone that isn't flying into town or needing lodging?


Most people living within drive distance of Jackson Hole are likely within drive distance of Salt Lake and/or Sun Valley also.  The Mountain Collective should be a no-brainer.

post #72 of 77
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Originally Posted by cbtbakkes View Post

Any discount ticket advise for someone that isn't flying into town or needing lodging?

A season pass elsewhere will get a good discount from January 11 till the end of the month:

 

http://www.jacksonhole.com/golden-ticket-giveaway.html

 

See you there!

post #73 of 77
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post


Most people living within drive distance of Jackson Hole are likely within drive distance of Salt Lake and/or Sun Valley also.  The Mountain Collective should be a no-brainer.

I'm from Michigan and staying with family when i visit in March. If I lived within a short driving distance I'd get a season pass.
post #74 of 77
Jackson's season pass is so expensive it would take something like 30 days to be a better value than Mountain Collective, even if you don't go to any of the other areas.
post #75 of 77

You should see what it's like being a ski bum in Jackson. It's ridiculous.

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post #77 of 77

More fun than golf though.

 

Plump on. 

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