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Need advice between two shell sizes please

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I've lurked here without being a member for years and have always appreciated the information provided by this forum (even leaned about Starthaus blem sale and have purchased 3 pair from Jim smile.gif

I'm coming to the experts for a bit of advice regarding boots. I live in Colorado and went to the shop I've used for years to try on a Lange RX 130 LV in 25.5. My previous boot is a 2008 Lange Freeride 130 (old RL 11 shell) in a 25. Yes I realize there are no half sizes, but the old Lange shell was a 292mm with small toe box and new one is 296mm with an awesome toe box.

My feet measure 251mm left and 249mm right. I have a skinny little ankles and heel, medium high instep and a average (wider proportionally forefoot). Langes have always had the best heel pocket for me but the toe box always required tons of work to be live able. My current boot has been grinded several times and I'm still not super comfy. Skiing is fine but now I've got kiddos on hill with me and my toes are done after an hr with them due to not charging and weighting the front of the boot every second if that makes sense.

My goal is a boot with the response I currently enjoy but with a bit more comfort for when I'm with my kids or hiking Highlands Bowl.

I have tried on a RX 130 LV in 25.5 and an RS 130 in 24.5. The shell fit was around 18-19mm in 25.5 and 9-10mm in 24.5.
The boots fit extremely well but I'm not sure which way to go for the increased comfort without sacrificing most of the performance.

From the experience of you guys here, have most people been able to downsize in the newer Lange shell compared to the old RL 11? The 25.5 felt perfect, but I'm concerned its a bit too long and when packed out will
Be sloppy, but the thought of full feeling in my toes is tempting!

Also, the RS 130 is readily available in 24.5 but I can't find the RX 130 LV in that size anywhere. My shop tells me the liner in the RX is a bit warmer than RS and that's also appealing. The shop fitter has basically told me I'm right on the edge either way and can upsize for comfort or downsize for performance. I like the shop but have to admit they don't cater to the more aggressive crowd and normally deal with weeked warriors. I'm not tommy moe but I chase my wife who's an ex Racer and on a good year I'm a 75 day guy. I'll give up 5 percent of my current performance for comfort but that's about all I want to sacrifice.

Is it possible to have my cake and eat it too? Is the 24.5 with a little work going to be more comfortable in the toe box than my current set?

Thanks for any advice guys. And for the record, I like my shop and will be buying from them, but the collective here has a bit more experience with a more dedicated skier than the average weekender and that's why I've come here, in addition to the fact that no one here is trying to directly sell me something.....at least until the next blem sale
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Originally Posted by msray View Post


I have tried on a RX 130 LV in 25.5 and an RS 130 in 24.5. The shell fit was around 18-19mm in 25.5 and 9-10mm in 24.5.
The boots fit extremely well but I'm not sure which way to go for the increased comfort without sacrificing most of the performance.

Is it possible to have my cake and eat it too? Is the 24.5 with a little work going to be more comfortable in the toe box than my current set?

 

In most cases you should be able to downsize into the smaller boot without any problems---as you said the boot has a roomy toe box.

 

Go for it and enjoy.  The 25.5 would be too big in my opinion.

 

Happy Holidays

 

mike

post #3 of 6
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Mike,

Thanks for the feedback. My gut was telling me the new shell shape would allow a downsize but I need a kick in the rear because I'm getting too old to live with the full on "race" fit anymore!
post #4 of 6
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Do you (Mike) or anyone else have an opinion on the warmth of the liners (RS vs RX LV)?

I'm sure either is an improvement over current boot but I'm turning into a sissy.

Also curious if the difference in zeppa composition is significant enough to be felt during a day on the hill?
post #5 of 6

liners will be about the same for warmth.

 

 

go smaller, but make sure that BOTH you and the store are willing to do some extra work to make the fit happen

post #6 of 6
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Thanks for taking the time mtnlion and Mike.

Here's an update, my shop guys let me take both boots to a well known boot fitter in Boulder for some expert advice.

While there it seems the measurements (shell) were as follows:

24.5 RS 130:
Left foot: 4mm
Right foot: 6mm

25.5 RS 130
Left foot: 14mm
Right foot: 16mm

For comparison my old RL 11 measurements are:
Left foot: 11mm
Right foot: 13mm

The fitter in Boulder said that with quite a bit of work we can get the 24.5 to work but that it would be a process similar to that of many of the plug boot guys he works with and that while performance would be awesome that comfort would never be great. He then went on to say that with the firmer liner in the RS 130 compared to the RX that he didn't think I'd give up tons of performance with those numbers but that comfort in toe box would be significantly better.

I should note that heel and instep feel great on both boots but 24.5 with liners in crush my toes.

That advice seems logical to me, do you guys (or anyone else) disagree with this assessment?

Thanks in advance
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