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What to do with leaking boots

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi, 

 

I am not sure if I should do something, or just ignore it. My new Lange boots which I had used about 3 times per last season with no issue even during the rain... On my first powder day this season, at the end of the day I found some snow inside the boots.

Is it fixable? Should I talk to shop or Lange? Or I just should ignore it ....

 

thank you for all the answers.

 

(btw, does anyone knows where this black stuff coming from on the liners? Is something broken?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 13

1)  most boots leak, but clear shells just allow you to see the snow.   Dry your boots out overnight and you should be fine

 

2)  duct tape the toe, just past the front buckle

 

3)  weather stripping, or clear caulking on the shell, where the overlaps meet

 

4)  invert the overlaps of the shell, and then shim the ladder part of the buckle up a few mm with washers if needed

 

5)  boot gloves

 

6) live with it,  see point 1

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

If I have to live with it... (obviously new boots is not an option, nor new boots are guaranteed not to leak). Some suggested an intuition liners which are waterproof... 

what would be a better suggestion for a traditional boot, a traditional liner or a wrap around burrito liner? Thank you. 

P.S. I don't like the idea of boot gloves or duct tape (duct tapes is slips and it takes time to put it on in crowded change room with limited space).

post #4 of 13

has the boot been stretched at all?

how were they stored, loosely done up, tightly done up, buckles open?

did you tighten the buckles more then normal?

did you have them unbuckled skiing at all?

 

all of these things can affect the boot and how much water gets in, if the boot has been stretched it may have collapsed the top of the shell slightly which could cause the problem, or if the boot was stored very tightly buckled it could have distorted slightly at that area.

 

if they have been stretched then go to your shop and have them heat the overlap slightly, reverse it and let it cool, to get a good seal at the factory they reverse the overlaps on the boot shells when they come off the mould and let them cool this way, this helps with the continuity of the shell shape at the instep, so it can be done manually if required 

 

some snow crystals are just very fine and will find their way into the boot

 

as for the black dust it looks like the plastic section at the top of the liner is rubbing on something , possibly one of the bolts in the spine of the boot, have a look round it for wear, it shouldn't be a problem  

 

not sure an intuition liner will solve the problem, but if your foot is high volume for the boot and forcing the overlap apart a little then it might be thinner and help a little

post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CEM View Post
 

has the boot been stretched at all?

how were they stored, loosely done up, tightly done up, buckles open?

did you tighten the buckles more then normal?

did you have them unbuckled skiing at all?

 

 

boots had not been stretched or done any work at all

boots had been stored in the house; buckles were loosely closed.

when I ski, I do not tight first and second buckets at all, but not unbuckled either, so, I was thinking if I am going to tight a little bit tightly the first 2 buckles that might help?

 

About Intuition liners, people said they are waterproof, so even the water/snow would get into the boots, my feet still be dry and not frozen, unless this is not really true (I am not in rush to spend another $200/300 ).

 

Last year I was even skiing during the rain and didn't get any water, the temp was around 37-40's, this time I was skiing in the snow (finally in California) and temp was around 25-30 F. and snow got into the boots and I got wet and frozen feet. Could this happened to do something with the temp?

post #6 of 13

you could try a LITTLE tighter with the buckles as if they were loose then the snow could work its way in, 

 

as for intuition liners being waterproof, i would say debatable, maybe the material is, but there is still a great big hole where your foot goes, and this split runs a long way forward in the wrap models

 

other thing which may be worth considering is have you changed socks?, different materials have different thermal properties and depending on your physiology may react differently

post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 

I'll try all, except intuition, I will be on the snow this Saturday, will see how it works. (I am using very thin socks as now).

post #8 of 13

Random thoughts on this:

 

It is often perspiration.  clear helmet shells show same thing and now with clear cabrio shell  having no toe entry point the condensation is still  visible often before venturing out on snow.​

 

If it is snow, the smaller the crystal ( man made ) the harder to stop the invasive nature of the crystals.   its part of skiing.   snow will work its way all the way up under the cuff and down the inside of the clog in some cases and levels of buckle tightness and boot temperatures.

 

Do your day to day routine with a plastic bag over your sock in a shoe for a couple or more hours and see what happens with condensation to better understand.

 

my2sense

post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 

I'll leave with it, just having a hard time taking out and putting back the liner.. I wish it would be some techniques which would let me do it in the snap :dunno (there is a gap between black rubber plug and shell and that is where the snow getting in).

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

oh, by the way, I've noticed where the black this is coming from. It is strictly cosmetic but still I believe should not happen on good quality product.

The black buckles are rubbing out and the black mess goes everywhere... Am I alone or that is happening to many others who owns this model of Lange?

 

 

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

That is NORMAL buckle number #1 from the top

 

This is problematic buckle number 2 from the top (both boots)

 

 

I found the problem, it is a buckle which is leaking "black" - second from the top on both boots.

Is there a way to fix it? I had skied with these boots for 4 times only and it seems like it that how it would go further, on 10th time, I won't have any buckle left on both boots.

Is there something what shop could do? Or should I just ignore it, and install a new buckle when this one is done?

post #12 of 13

ask the store you got them from?    and either way replace when needed, or when its convenient.

post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
 

ask the store you got them from?    and either way replace when needed, or when its convenient.


will go to the store on Tuesday, not really optimistic but will let you know how it would go

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