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Fischer Motive 80 C-Line, Sultan 85, or something else?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hi all,

 

First post here. Thanks in advance for the help, and for all the useful info that's been collected here over the years. Very helpful.

 

I'm 5'7", 145lbs and looking to get back into skiing after a > 10 year hiatus. I'll be on the east coast and also doing some days while traveling for business (Let's say 10 days east coast, 5 days west, and 2-3 in New Zealand)

 

As I said, It's been > 10 years since I've skied regularly, but prior to that break I was a strong, aggressive skier, and have been skiing since I was about 4. I'm told I seemed like I got right back into it on the recent trip. That said I know my endurance definitely wasn't there. 

 

While I enjoy groomed runs, I would prefer to be off chasing steeper and more untouched snow. In the east, I guess that means off to the side or after a dump (haven't skied much on the east coast yet, truth be told). I'll climb a bit if it gets me a few turns. I tend to favor shorter turns and ski fast.

 

I recently did 4 days on a trip home to New Zealand on my Dad's Blizzard Magnum 7.6's. I really enjoyed the ski, on both groomed runs and 4-5 inches of moderately heavy/choppy snow (which was heavy, crusted crud in the morning). I sometimes struggled to stop the tips digging in on heavier patches when it was quite steep. I really did not like his Armada TST's due to the width.

 

Reading a lot of reviews here and elsewhere, the Motive 80 C-Line and Sultan 85 both interest me. That said, I'm open to other suggestions as well. My budget is pretty tight, so I'm limited to one set at the moment, probably ex-demos from powder7 or similar.

 

Some guidance on what might work length-wise for these two (or any others you suggest) would also be appreciated. Last time I bought a pair of skis they were 190cm straights.

 

Cheers!

post #2 of 10
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Originally Posted by Bedeo View Post
 

Hi all,

 

First post here. Thanks in advance for the help, and for all the useful info that's been collected here over the years. Very helpful.

 

I'm 5'7", 145lbs and looking to get back into skiing after a > 10 year hiatus. I'll be on the east coast and also doing some days while traveling for business (Let's say 10 days east coast, 5 days west, and 2-3 in New Zealand)

 

As I said, It's been > 10 years since I've skied regularly, but prior to that break I was a strong, aggressive skier, and have been skiing since I was about 4. I'm told I seemed like I got right back into it on the recent trip. That said I know my endurance definitely wasn't there. 

 

While I enjoy groomed runs, I would prefer to be off chasing steeper and more untouched snow. In the east, I guess that means off to the side or after a dump (haven't skied much on the east coast yet, truth be told). I'll climb a bit if it gets me a few turns. I tend to favor shorter turns and ski fast.

 

I recently did 4 days on a trip home to New Zealand on my Dad's Blizzard Magnum 7.6's. I really enjoyed the ski, on both groomed runs and 4-5 inches of moderately heavy/choppy snow (which was heavy, crusted crud in the morning). I sometimes struggled to stop the tips digging in on heavier patches when it was quite steep. I really did not like his Armada TST's due to the width.

 

Reading a lot of reviews here and elsewhere, the Motive 80 C-Line and Sultan 85 both interest me. That said, I'm open to other suggestions as well. My budget is pretty tight, so I'm limited to one set at the moment, probably ex-demos from powder7 or similar.

 

Some guidance on what might work length-wise for these two (or any others you suggest) would also be appreciated. Last time I bought a pair of skis they were 190cm straights.

 

Cheers!

 

 

Welcome to the forum.

Neither the 80 C-line nor the Sultan 85 are current skis.    

Shopping for past-season skis is very much a supply-dependent game (as in: who's selling what for how much and what sort of shape are they in?), to such a degree that the price/condition criteria will wash out and supersede any  distinctions or nuances we make here.        

In other words, we can come up with 50+ ski models and lengths that could work for you  but who knows if you'll find it in usable shape for low money and the one you do find might have marginally worse reviews but be in better shape. 

It works better if you look out and find something and then ask here "Is this exact ski right(ish) for me?"

That said: Head Monster 88s, Rev 85,  Nordica Steadfast / Hell & Back, Dynastar Powertrack 89,  Chamonix 87, Outland 87,  Elan Amphib 88 could all fit in your described needs if they show up in your price range. 

post #3 of 10

Bedeo -- I have the Legend Sultan 85 in my closet.  They're in great condition and I'm not skiing them anymore.  They have Look Pivot bindings.  Let me know if you're interested in buying.

post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the response!

 

I understand what you're saying about past-season skis being hit or miss. 

 

For the two that I mentioned: Motive C-Line (161cm and 168cm) and Sultan 85, I've located a couple of pairs for sale that are in good condition ex-demo and are within my price range. So for those two I'd love to hear opinions on whether they'd be a fit.

 

Of the others you mentioned, the Cham 97 (168cm) is available ex-demo in a price range I can afford. There are PowerTrack 79's (166cm) and 84's (166cm) as well. The PowerTrack 89 (166cm) is also available, but at the higher end of my price range (which admittedly is not a whole lot, I realize that).

 

Jimski, PM sent. Thanks!

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Let's get a bit more specific. I've had offers of aa pair of Sultan 85s at 172cm, and Fischer Motives at 161cm.

Given my 5'7" and 145lbs stats, does anyone have guidance on these lectures for those skis?

Cheers for the patience as I feel my way back into the ski world smile.gif
post #6 of 10
I'm 5'8" 150 upper intermediate adv.

I've skied the Sultan 172. Perfect size for us but it wasn't my favorite ski. It felt OK but I prefer others. Felt too damp for me...
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by lott42 View Post

I'm 5'8" 150 upper intermediate adv.

I've skied the Sultan 172. Perfect size for us but it wasn't my favorite ski. It felt OK but I prefer others. Felt too damp for me...

 

Might just be the ticket for OP as an EC/NZ quiver of one, esp. on the refreeze we're likely to get this season.

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
 

 

Might just be the ticket for OP as an EC/NZ quiver of one, esp. on the refreeze we're likely to get this season.

Probably true...good call

post #9 of 10

I am just slighty bigger than you (5'8" and 160lbs) and skis from 165 to 175 length are what I prefer.  Short end for narrow hard snow carvers and long end for wider all-mountain skis with a bit of rocker.  For one ski for what you describe, I would look for an all-mountain ski with a hard snow bias with a waist width of 80-90mm and a length of about 170cm.  Skis like the Fischer Motive 86, Rossi E88, or Blizzard Brahma. 

post #10 of 10
If you're interested in a ski with a 80mm waist take a look at evogear.com. They have the Nordica NRGY 80 with bindings for around $350 shipped. I bought this ski this season from a different online retailer. I'm 5'6" 150lbs and ski just about all terrain in CO with decent modern technique. I have it in 169cm. The NRGY is my narrow ski. My other ski is 99mm waisted. I've really liked the NRGY 80 so far. It is really light, responsive and quick. It's not as quick as my older Fischer Progressor 8+ but that ski is 72mm at the waist. It's great in the moguls and trees and is very forgiving. It's more of a narrow all mountain ski rather than a dedicated front side carver. It does carve very well on firm groomers, responds well to both modern and older school technique and can make slalom as well as GS turns. It has a speed limit and definitely likes to be on edge when going moderate to fast. It's been fine in less than 6" of fresh. Anything deeper and you'd probably want something wider. It would be a great east coast ski for you if you're willing to go a little narrower.
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