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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

I would like you to recommend me some good ski backpack for every day use, off-piste/freeride skiing, max one day trips.

It should have straps to attach skis, possibly snowshoes.

Things to fit inside: probe, receiver, shovel, a little bit of food/water, spare socks, small first aid kit...

 

It is really hard for me to guess how big it should, over 20L or less (~1220 cu in)? I do not want it to be unnecessary big.

 

So far I am considering these:

Ortovox Freerider 26

http://www.ortovox.com/uk/shop/backpacks/free-ride/free-rider-26-black-anthracite

 

Ortovox Freerider 26

http://www.ortovox.com/uk/shop/backpacks/free-ride/free-rider-18-crazy-orange

 

Pieps Freerider (24 L)

http://pieps.com/en/product/pieps-freerider

 

Thanks for suggestions :)

post #2 of 13

Depends on how much you like to pack!

 

For single day trips, I find 12-16L is fine for me.  But then I don't tend to overpack and just keep the essentials.

 

I'm sure others will have ideas, but I've found the POC Spine Packs to be very compact and low profile.....perhaps a bit spendy for a "pack" but really nice.  I used to have a Dakine Heli-Pack that I really enjoyed using, problem with that was the shovel was external carry.

 

POC's Spine Tourpack 20 has a great design with the bottom pull out compartment for quick access to shovel/probe.  Some people don't like that the larger main compartment can only be accessed when taking the pack off, I don't think it's a big deal.

 

Again like most things POC, a bit spendy, but super quality and in my opinion well designed.

post #3 of 13

I like my Osprey Kode :-) Can't talk about the others unfortunately.

post #4 of 13

Millet Steep 15.

 

http://www.millet-mountain.com/steep-15-dark-blue-freeride-backpack.html

 

Been using one for ~2 years. Very satisfied.

post #5 of 13
I have a BD agent and couldn't be happier with it. Heaps of features. Can fit everything I need for a day tour, excellent ski carry system, seperate area for shovel and probe, don't even know I'm wearing it. What I like most is its clean lines. I hate external straps and shyte.
I have purchased an Osprey Karve for my son online sight unseen. It's complicated with Way too many straps and buckles on the outside. Don't like it.
post #6 of 13

I have a Dakine Heli Pro. Good product. Very durable. Compresses down nicely for sitting on the chair too if you are accessing terrain from the area.

post #7 of 13

Used to be a big osprey fan, but now I'm using the Mammut nirvana pro 25L and I like it a lot! great pack, and has a frame in case you need to carry some heavier loads!, there is a back opening which is great as well!

post #8 of 13

Some things unmentioned... Airbag or not? Avalung or not?

 

It does not take much room to hold what you mentioned. But are you talking now and again lift served hikes (or snowshoe access) or skinning (even as an option)? If skinning, skins are not tiny... And if you add a bit of spare clothing, extra pair of goggles, a full water bladder, etc., you can start wishing for more room pretty quickly. Anyway, "day trips" can span a pretty big range.

 

I recently looked for a small, low profile, no hassle on the lift "just in case we hike a bit" pack - for possibly similar use to what you describe. Smaller than my usual.  Focus on lift comfort. I ended up with an evoc slope 18. It has not been out yet. - so I can't yet say whether or not it hits the mark (though they seem popular at Whistler). But there were other contenders - Patagonia, Osprey, Mammut, Ortovox, etc....

 

Consider that most of the top tier companies make really fine gear. Lots comes down to what you really want to do with it, brand specific nuances, and fit. Do not discount the latter IMO. Different brands often have a rather different fit. If in doubt, find a way to try some on.

 

Finally, that beacon should probably never be in the pack. (sorry if I'm overstepping a bit, but it is amazing to find out some folks actually leave their beacons in their packs while out).

post #9 of 13
^^^ receiver on body always
post #10 of 13

30 litres is on the money for day trips.  I find my Osprey 20 litre pack too small at times.  Then my idea of a day pack includes enough in in case your day trip isn't...... (eg emergency bivy) 

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
 

Some things unmentioned... Airbag or not? Avalung or not?

 

It does not take much room to hold what you mentioned. But are you talking now and again lift served hikes (or snowshoe access) or skinning (even as an option)? If skinning, skins are not tiny... And if you add a bit of spare clothing, extra pair of goggles, a full water bladder, etc., you can start wishing for more room pretty quickly. Anyway, "day trips" can span a pretty big range.

 

I recently looked for a small, low profile, no hassle on the lift "just in case we hike a bit" pack - for possibly similar use to what you describe. Smaller than my usual.  Focus on lift comfort. I ended up with an evoc slope 18. It has not been out yet. - so I can't yet say whether or not it hits the mark (though they seem popular at Whistler). But there were other contenders - Patagonia, Osprey, Mammut, Ortovox, etc....

 

Consider that most of the top tier companies make really fine gear. Lots comes down to what you really want to do with it, brand specific nuances, and fit. Do not discount the latter IMO. Different brands often have a rather different fit. If in doubt, find a way to try some on.

 

Finally, that beacon should probably never be in the pack. (sorry if I'm overstepping a bit, but it is amazing to find out some folks actually leave their beacons in their packs while out).

 

To clarify some things:

Except skis and snowshoes, everything should be inside (for example no external shovel)

Airbag - not, price is too high, I am hoping for something in 100-150$ price range.

Avalung - haven't thought about it frankly, is it possible to use it with every backpack or only Black Diamond ones?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by craigr View Post

^^^ receiver on body always

 

Yeah, thanks for that :)

post #12 of 13
My BD agent has a built in avalung but you can get them without I believe. You can buy an avalung as a seperate unit but it is something extra to strap on as opposed to a unit built into the pack.
I've personally never used or had my avalung out ready for use so can't comment on that feature. Got the pack for a great deal with probe/shovel/receiver.
Cheers
post #13 of 13

Easy to read up on the Avalung option on the BD site + BC oriented sites. May or may not be a good choice depending on where you are, the terrain you will be in, and what you are doing...

 

Again, if you are thinking quick side-country laps, "small" is likely OK enough to cover the basics.

 

However... while  I only skin now and again - here is the pattern for most days:

 

Start out feeling a bit chilly...

+5 minutes - open zippers

+10 minutes - shell comes off & into pack

+15 minutes - fleece comes off & into pack

Skin along in base layer or t-shirt (even down in low twenties or teens)

Stop to rest and snack (suck down  ton of water all along)

+1 minute - layers back on

+ 5 minutes - start again

Kind of repeat process...

 

 

If you are going to do the snowshoe thing, I'd expect something roughly similar. So think in terms of a pack that'll hold just about all your top layers down to your skin - as well as lunch, water,  helmet and goggles, small emergency kit, spare gloves, and cap, etc. Plus the stuff you initially mentioned. Of course YMMV

 

Google for reviews on sites focused on these kinds of packs. And look at reviews on retail sites. 

 

Knowing nothing of your background, the usual admonitions about training apply...

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